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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:24 am to RuLSU
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:24 am to RuLSU
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A ceasefire allows Russia to lock-in gains, take the pressure off the Russian country and gear up for the next invasion of Ukraine in 2-5 years.
I can’t disagree with this scenario. But again this isn’t a peace in our time. It’s an intermission. Russia comes out of halftime having made adjustments and blows Ukraine out the water.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:27 am to AU86
I occasionally review this thread to remind myself who is the most weak-minded and falls for the “next thing” that allows their overlords to get rich from their stupidity.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:27 am to AU86
Interesting (short) article in Foreign Affairs magazine: "The War in Ukraine Is Not a Stalemate."
Achived copy since Foreign Affairs is paywalled after a certain # of articles
Achived copy since Foreign Affairs is paywalled after a certain # of articles
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:42 am to theunknownknight
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theunknownknight
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weak-minded
Yep
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:43 am to theunknownknight
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I occasionally review this thread to remind myself who is the most weak-minded and falls for the “next thing” that allows their overlords to get rich from their stupidity.
So in other words, you come here for self-reflection.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:47 am to Chromdome35
He does use the photos of movie character with AIDS
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:54 am to AU86
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Would you trust the Biden administration with your survival? He had the support for the first year to deliver anything and everything needed for victory. They failed miserably. Weakness, unreliable and incompetent best describes this administration. If I was Zelensky and Ukraine I would be sweating it right now.
Vacillation is Brandon's style.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:59 am to doubleb
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Why are we telling the Russians our plans?
Brought to you by the same crew that told the Taliban "our" plans.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:03 pm to StormyMcMan
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Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree strengthening procedures for granting foreign citizens Russian citizenship in exchange for Russian military service in Ukraine, likely as part of ongoing efforts to coerce migrants into the Russian military.
He could get volunteers from North Korea by using a menu as a recruitment poster.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:38 pm to theunknownknight
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I occasionally review this thread to remind myself who is the most weak-minded and falls for the “next thing” that allows their overlords to get rich from their stupidity.
Thanks, and thanks for making sure our overlords don’t get rich. You are doing a great job. Pat yourself on the back sir.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:12 pm to RuLSU
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While the current "vibes" seem pessimistic, let's see what happens.
You really think the US government can resist spending $60b that will mostly go into the pockets of defense contractors? I don't.
The worsening border situation is politically untenable for Biden. He needs to make a deal.
That's why some people think that Speaker Johnson might not make a deal: it would probably be better for Trump's chances if the border were a mess and Biden "lost" Ukraine.
But it's actually better for individual House Republicans to be able to be able to claim results. Those who represent tossup districts need a defense against the arguments from their Democratic opponents that they are "do-nothings," etc.
That's why I think it's still very likely that a deal gets done, though I now believe that the topline number for Ukraine will be less than previously expected. This is why it was so foolish of Biden to ignore Lend-Lease and fail to keep congressional Republicans more in the loop.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:59 pm to GOP_Tiger
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Russian forces may intensify efforts to capture Kupyansk, Kharkiv Oblast, in the coming weeks and have a grouping of forces in the area that appears to be less degraded than Russian groupings responsible for offensive efforts elsewhere in eastern Ukraine.
Ukrainian forces reportedly conducted a series of drone and missile strikes against Russian targets in occupied Crimea and Krasnodar Krai on the night of January 4 to 5.
Russian forces conducted Shahed 131/136 drone strikes and missile strikes against frontline areas in Ukraine overnight on January 5.
Germany announced a new military assistance package to Ukraine on January 4.
The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) will convene on January 10 and discuss Russia’s reported use of North Korean ballistic missiles in Ukraine, a likely violation of UNSC resolutions.
Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov strangely offered to exchange 20 Ukrainian prisoners of war (POWs) for lifting sanctions against his family members.
The Moscow Arbitration Court ordered Google to unblock four YouTube channels belonging to Russian state-affiliated channel 5TV on January 5, likely as part of an ongoing effort to consolidate control over the Russian information space ahead of the March presidential elections.
Russian forces made a confirmed advance near Avdiivka as positional engagements continued along the entire frontline.
International sanctions are reportedly impeding Russia’s Su-34 aircraft production.
The Kremlin continues to solidify federal administrative oversight of local and regional occupation administrations in occupied Ukraine.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:14 pm to StormyMcMan
America's goal has been accomplished. Our hands are relatively clean, Russia's military capability is greatly depleted -- with very little hope demographically of replacing the losses in the near future and no nukes were launched.
The proxy proxied real good.
No need to prop them up anymore, and it could actually be counterproductive to do so.
But our politicians owe favors, so we'll probably not just take the W and instead turn it into an L.
The proxy proxied real good.
No need to prop them up anymore, and it could actually be counterproductive to do so.
But our politicians owe favors, so we'll probably not just take the W and instead turn it into an L.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:20 am to PurpleandGold Motown
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 06 January 2024
On 22 December 2023, Ukrainian forces shot down three Russian Su-34 FULLBACK combat jets over southern Ukraine. Previously, Russian tactical air power had been playing a key role in the south, especially attacking Ukraine's bridgehead on the eastern bank of the Dnipro River.
Following the losses, Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) almost completely ceased crewed operations in the south through late December 2023. There is a realistic possibility that the lack of air support contributed to the failure of an attempt by Russian Ground Forces' 18th Combined Arms Army to clear the bridgehead.
In recent days, Russia has again increased tactical air strikes around the bridgehead, but at a lower level than before the shootdowns. This once again demonstrates that Russia's inability to establish air superiority in the early stages of the Russia-Ukraine war continues to undermine their daily operations.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 06 January 2024
On 22 December 2023, Ukrainian forces shot down three Russian Su-34 FULLBACK combat jets over southern Ukraine. Previously, Russian tactical air power had been playing a key role in the south, especially attacking Ukraine's bridgehead on the eastern bank of the Dnipro River.
Following the losses, Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) almost completely ceased crewed operations in the south through late December 2023. There is a realistic possibility that the lack of air support contributed to the failure of an attempt by Russian Ground Forces' 18th Combined Arms Army to clear the bridgehead.
In recent days, Russia has again increased tactical air strikes around the bridgehead, but at a lower level than before the shootdowns. This once again demonstrates that Russia's inability to establish air superiority in the early stages of the Russia-Ukraine war continues to undermine their daily operations.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:00 am to cypher
Random tweets
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According to French journalist Elsa Vidal, of course our govts deliberately starved Ukraine of the most decisive types of weapons -- this needs to be universal knowledge now -- but she goes further into the interpretation, which is interesting. She believes it's our fear of Russia collapsing following a proper defeat. She also fingers @RANDCorporation for being responsible for promoting the cynical policy goal of aiming for neither defeat nor victory in Ukraine.
Additionally, and that's also a diagnosis I made on this platform, she notes that aiming for a stalemate to begin with was necessarily going to make sustaining the political will to support Ukraine more difficult.
And, in my view, it's on that latter point that we really see the problem we have today, with the U.S. losing heart and resolve at the level of the entire country. Because the policy was not some kind of "golden middle" worked out by geniuses, but a costly and bloody and cowardly middle-of-the-road trajectory at a time in history that requires decisiveness.
Vidal concludes, like entire governments in the eastern half of Europe, like many parliamentarians across all of our nations, like hundreds of experts on the region and on military affairs, that we must aim for victory.
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There are significant developments that will speed up the exchange of prisoners, – said Andrii Yusov, representative of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine.
Yusov assured that Ukrainian diplomacy, including closed diplomacy, in the context of the exchange process and the return of our prisoners is working effectively and in our interests.
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US will soon be unable to supply Ukraine with Patriot missiles
White House and Pentagon officials have warned about this, The New York Times has reported.
The reason for this will be the lack of funding - the cost of interceptor missiles for these systems can range from $2 million to $4 million.
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Denmark will supply F-16 fighters to Ukraine only in six months
Sources in the country's Ministry of Defense reported this to the Berlingske newspaper.
This is due to the failure to fulfill a number of conditions, including the training of Ukrainian pilots, the training of mechanics and ground personnel, the condition of airfields and the organization of supplies of ammunition and spare parts.
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“Sympathy for the Ukrainian war effort is entirely understandable, but…democracies lose when cheerleading replaces objectivity in reporting and governments prefer their own propaganda to the truth of what is happening on the battleground.”
A remarkably clear-minded piece which reflects a rather mainstream Western establishment thinking which has been silenced by war cheerleaders who monopolised the discourse by aggressively harassing the moderates and genuine experts.
Also: “It is estimated that between 20,000 and 50,000 Ukrainians are now amputees. (For context, 41,000 Britons had to have amputations in the First World War, when the procedure was often the only one available to prevent death.”
British lethal casualties in WWI: 880 thousand.
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Just to emphasize once again, Ukraine's summer offensive was made possible by a large shipment of artillery ammunition from South Korea. Ukraine's ammunition expenditure rate was always going to decrease this winter, though the lack of appropriated US funds has exacerbated this.
Obviously, it is critical that the US pass the supplemental aid package as soon as possible, but, looking at production/stockpile estimates, the relative ammunition situation for Ukraine in 2024 will not be as favorable as it was this summer.
Which is why the next strategic-level Ukrainian offensive may not be possible until 2025.
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Agree
Artillery ammo availability and having enough shells on hand to achieve a good enough relative weight of fire over time is a key requirement for enabling the next Ukrainian strategic offensive
Western production isn't increasing quick enough to achieve this before '25
To enable a new offensive, artillery ammo production and deliveries needs to be high enough to cover daily expenditure, which of course increases when the Russians are attacking, and leave a large enough surplus that can be stockpiled for an offensive
There are of course a whole host of other factors influencing the prospects of future Ukrainian strategic level offensives but artillery ammo availability is very high on the list, in order of importance.
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Wives of mobilized men picketed in Moscow demanding that their husbands be returned home
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Polish authorities persuade farmers to stop blockade of border with Ukraine
Polish Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development Czeslaw Siekierski will today provide written guarantees that three demands of protesting farmers will be met: subsidies for corn, guarantees of no increase in taxes and cheap loans.
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This is surely one of the most surreal moments of the war yet
Scott Ritter has turned up in Chechnya and spoken in broken Russian (some of which I couldn’t make out) to thousands of Kadyrov’s fighters about his efforts to strengthen the "friendship between Chechnya and America"
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This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:05 am to GOP_Tiger
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The worsening border situation is politically untenable for Biden. He needs to make a deal. That's why some people think that Speaker Johnson might not make a deal: it would probably be better for Trump's chances if the border were a mess and Biden "lost" Ukraine.
This is exactly what’s going on. The republican desire to oppose good policy for political reasons will negatively impact America home and abroad. That’s not to say that the Dems don’t do stupid stuff all the time themselves, because they do. But this particular action by republicans at this time is particularly damaging.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:16 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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America's goal has been accomplished. Our hands are relatively clean, Russia's military capability is greatly depleted -- with very little hope demographically of replacing the losses in the near future and no nukes were launched.
The proxy proxied real good.
No need to prop them up anymore, and it could actually be counterproductive to do so.
But our politicians owe favors, so we'll probably not just take the W and instead turn it into an L.
100% USDA Grade A Copium
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:18 am to TBoy
This is not directly about Ukraine, but it's so huge in terms of global military implications:
Bloomberg:
US Intelligence Shows Flawed China Missiles Led Xi to Purge Army
Bloomberg:
US Intelligence Shows Flawed China Missiles Led Xi to Purge Army
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US intelligence indicates that President Xi Jinping’s sweeping military purge came after it emerged that widespread corruption undermined his efforts to modernize the armed forces and raised questions about China’s ability to fight a war, according to people familiar with the assessments.
The corruption inside China’s Rocket Force and throughout the nation’s defense industrial base is so extensive that US officials now believe Xi is less likely to contemplate major military action in the coming years than would otherwise have been the case, according to the people, who asked not to be named discussing intelligence.
The US assessments cited several examples of the impact of graft, including missiles filled with water instead of fuel and vast fields of missile silos in western China with lids that don’t function in a way that would allow the missiles to launch effectively, one of the people said.
The US assesses that corruption within the People’s Liberation Army has led to an erosion of confidence in its overall capabilities, particularly when it comes to the Rocket Force, and also set back some of Xi’s top modernization priorities, the people said. The graft probe has ensnared more than a dozen senior defense officials over the past six months, in what may be China’s largest crackdown on the country’s military in modern history.
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Evidence of Xi’s corruption purge has bubbled to the surface in recent months.
In the latest round on Dec. 29, China’s top legislative body unseated nine defense figures, including five linked to the missile force and at least two from the Equipment Development Department, which is charged with arming the military.
Days earlier, China’s main political advisory body publicly removed three executives from state-owned missile manufacturers. That spate of purges came after the October ousting of China’s former defense minister, Li Shangfu, who was only in the position for seven months.
Those are just the removals Beijing has made public. Unlike other parts of the Chinese system, the military doesn’t announce its corruption investigations. Another Rocket Force major-general was quietly removed from Beijing’s municipal legislature in November, Chinese news outlet Caixin reported.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:28 am to GOP_Tiger
I was curious about Russian artillery shell production as several of the tweets referenced the following
Summer offensive shells per day
Russia ~5k
Ukraine ~7k
Current usage per day
Russia ~10k
Ukraine ~2k
This article from October 2023 has some insight
This translates as follows
1M/yr 2,739/day
1.5M/yr 4,109/day
2M/yr 5,479/day
So assuming Russia keeps at the roughly 10,000 shells per day and they still have 4M shells in storage, it would take roughly 2 years until they would need to reduce their usage or pull more from North Korea and Iran.
Several assumptions built into that number (all 4M shells are good and 2M annual production is met), but Russia definitely has a strong upper hand on the artillery quantity aspect for the foreseeable future. Especially given that the US won't even hit 1.2M annual production until 2026
Summer offensive shells per day
Russia ~5k
Ukraine ~7k
Current usage per day
Russia ~10k
Ukraine ~2k
This article from October 2023 has some insight
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There are reports from Western media outlets in September indicating plans within the Russian Federation to ramp up yearly artillery ammunition production to 2 million with the timeline remaining unspecified. Presently, Russia has the capability to produce between 1 and 1.5 million artillery rounds annually, or between 83-125 thousand units per month.
This translates as follows
1M/yr 2,739/day
1.5M/yr 4,109/day
2M/yr 5,479/day
So assuming Russia keeps at the roughly 10,000 shells per day and they still have 4M shells in storage, it would take roughly 2 years until they would need to reduce their usage or pull more from North Korea and Iran.
Several assumptions built into that number (all 4M shells are good and 2M annual production is met), but Russia definitely has a strong upper hand on the artillery quantity aspect for the foreseeable future. Especially given that the US won't even hit 1.2M annual production until 2026
Posted on 1/6/24 at 1:30 pm to StormyMcMan
This video of pedophile Scott Ritter addressing a group of Chechen fighters is simply bonkers. It's like some video game or alternate reality.
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