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Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:55 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Lima Whiskey is either an American veteran who has turned traitor and is working for the FSB or an FSB agent pretending to be an American veteran. Either way he is working for the FSB. I figured you guys out. When stuck and cant defend the Ukraine or absurdity of this foreign policy; You immediately precipitate into ad hominem attacks against the people with a different view from yours
No that is not the case at all with Lima Whiskey. He has been repeating Kremlin talking points verbatim from FSB sponsored telegram accounts. He has been in love with Putin for years and even said that he wished Putin was POTUS instead of the President of Russia.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:18 pm to crazy4lsu
Look at this hysterical little left wing man and consider whether you should agree with him on anything.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:47 pm to WeeWee
Typical ammo package from DoD drawdown:
... except that there's an additional HIMARS launcher included, which seems a bit odd. Some people are speculating on Twitter that this one has been modified to also fire GLSDB.
... except that there's an additional HIMARS launcher included, which seems a bit odd. Some people are speculating on Twitter that this one has been modified to also fire GLSDB.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:49 pm to SirWinston
Bitch, we both know you are a liar. I can't wait to see your arse at Union Jacks
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:58 pm to SirWinston
nothing he said was inaccurate
you’re the last person on this board who should be posting screenshots to impugn anyone’s internet reputation
you’re the last person on this board who should be posting screenshots to impugn anyone’s internet reputation
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:59 pm to SirWinston
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Look at this hysterical little left wing man and consider whether you should agree with him on anything.
You know I would punt you in the pussy ya big ol bitch.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:45 pm to crazy4lsu
Well I have to agree with him on one point thought. The vaccination bullshite is ridiculous. As a commercial pilot I was forced to get vaxed but if I had my choice there’s no chance in hell I’m taking that shot when it hasn’t had long term trials to test side effects. But he’s still an immense douchebag who would lovingly ask his hero Putin if he preferred him to spit or swallow.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:48 pm to cypher
This is actually a solid package but I wonder why just one HIMARS system was included. Maybe one finally went down and needed replacement. The Russians haven’t hit any yet but they still can break down and have been used very hard over the last year.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:58 pm to LSUPilot07
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This is actually a solid package but I wonder why just one HIMARS system was included. Maybe one finally went down and needed replacement. The Russians haven’t hit any yet but they still can break down and have been used very hard over the last year.
I agree that replacement of a non-combat loss is probably the most likely scenario.
GLSDB integration is possible but less likely.
PrSM integration is the fantasy scenario.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
PrSM will never make it to Ukraine and nor should it but the introduction of them into our own forces should officially let all the ATACMS we still have free to be sent to them. I don’t think our HIMARS systems need to be modified to use GLSDBs but I know they have had a tougher time getting the actual rocket to work properly since a lot of the GLSDB comes from already produced HIMARS rockets. It would be nice to officially see them but who knows when or if we actually will. It’s time for everyone to put up or shut up and end this war at the negotiating table if NATO isn’t going to go all in to give Ukraine the ability to break the Russian military’s back. Right now they are giving them just enough to stay alive and gradually degrade Russia’s military. It would cost everyone much less to just go all in, send what they need, then hand out new contracts to replace and modernize our own forces which is badly needed anyway.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:16 pm to LSUPilot07
China’s support for Russia has been hindering Ukraine’s counteroffensive
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Last month, Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Beijing to meet with his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping, as Ukraine’s counteroffensive against Russian invaders stalled. Commentators have frequently pointed the finger at Ukraine’s military or its Western supporters for insufficient armaments deliveries to Ukraine. But it is important to acknowledge another vital factor behind Ukraine’s struggle to regain its land—the People’s Republic of China’s (PRC) economic lifeline to Russia.
Open-source trade data suggests that a surge in imports of Chinese-manufactured goods with important military uses played a key role in Russia’s ability to shore up its defenses on Ukrainian territory and to keep them equipped and supplied to resist the counteroffensive. Russia successfully transitioned to a defensive posture after the culmination of its offensive, dug in on Ukrainian territory, and has managed to sustain its forces there—despite continuing heavy losses of military equipment and tremendous expenditures of munitions. Even as weapons and ammunition pour into Ukraine from NATO countries, they are being counterbalanced by Chinese imports—not of weapons, but of materials vital for Russia’s ability to sustain its continued stubborn efforts to hold onto Ukrainian territory.
Though the PRC, as far as is possible to tell, has still not crossed the red line of providing significant amounts of “lethal aid” directly to Russia, openly available trade data makes it clear that the PRC is providing massive volumes of manufactured goods and technologies vital to Russia’s war effort. The vast majority of what has been included in this vital sustainment for Russia’s military machine is being provided openly, and is not prohibited or restricted by the international sanctions regimes in place against Russia. It is “legitimate trade” and, although Beijing is doing nothing to discourage the trade, it is likely not even centrally orchestrated. To what extent Beijing is ensuring this flow to Russia, as opposed to simply allowing it, is unclear. What is clear is that what is being provided is vast in scope and very relevant for Russia’s war effort
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Chinese vehicle exports to Russia may have prevented a catastrophic defeat for Russian military forces. During August and September 2022, Ukraine enjoyed successes in rolling back the Russian invasion, especially around the city of Kharkiv. Facing disaster, Russian forces began to assume a defensive posture. They constructed the so-called “Surovikin Line” (named for the Russian general who led the effort) of trenches and other defensive fortifications.
Chinese excavator exports to Russia more than tripled in September 2022 when compared to prior-year levels and coincided with the construction of the Surovikin Line....
Russia’s civilian construction season lasts from approximately March through October. However, Chinese shipments to Russia of trench-digging equipment were highly elevated from September 2022 and remained high throughout the remainder of the winter, only to decline sharply after Ukraine launched its June counteroffensive. The unseasonal imports of trench-digging equipment, outside of the civilian construction season, is further evidence that these materials were used for military purposes.
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Chinese year-to-date total exports of ball bearings to Russia are up 345 percent from the same period in 2021. Chinese exports to Kyrgyzstan, meanwhile, are up 2,492 percent.
While it’s possible that Kyrgyzstan’s domestic market suddenly requires ball bearings, the much more likely explanation is that these products are immediately re-exported to Russia, perhaps to suppress top-line trade totals or to establish cutouts to avoid future sanctions.
Russian annual tank production has doubled from pre-war levels and now stands at two hundred tanks, according to recent reporting from the New York Times. Chinese exports of ball bearings are likely directly or indirectly facilitating the surge in Russian tank production, although we cannot prove this definitively.
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Large-scale Russian imports of Chinese-made trucks are helping sustain Russia’s war effort in Ukraine. With Russian occupation forces largely unable to utilize rail or seaborne transit for resupply, they rely on trucks for their supply lines, which Chinese exporters have provided.
Chinese year-to-date exports to Russia of very large trucks weighing greater than twenty tons were up by 728 percent from 2021 levels in the first eight months of this year.
Similarly, Chinese exports to Russia of “tractors”—that is, vehicles with compression-ignition internal combustion piston engines (diesel or semi-diesel)—were up from zero in 2021 to nearly 48,000 units through September 2023.
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Following the release of April 2023 trade data, we reported that the PRC had already more than doubled its 2021 exports of integrated circuits to Russia, without accounting for indirect shipments. Since that report, the numbers continue to outperform the pre-war period. In just nine months of data released so far in 2023, the PRC’s total direct exports of integrated circuits to Russia have already far surpassed total annual pre-war levels. The timing and extent of this surge strongly suggests a direct linkage to war production requirements.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:32 pm to StormyMcMan
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Russia appears to be employing a known hybrid warfare tactic to artificially create a migrant crisis on the Finnish border.
Russia’s apparent hybrid warfare tactic on the Russian-Finnish border is similar to Russia’s and Belarus’ creation of a migrant crisis on the Polish border in 2021 and is likely similarly aimed at destabilizing NATO.
Russian milbloggers expressed continued anger at deteriorating Russian-Armenian relations as Armenia appears to distance itself further from Russia while entering further agreements with Western governments.
The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) reportedly started public recruitment for the Russian “Africa Corps” aimed at subsuming Wagner Group operations in Africa after alleged failed MoD attempts to directly recruit former Wagner personnel.
The Russian Strelkov (Igor Girkin) Movement (RDS) predictably backed Girkin’s November 19 formal announcement of his intent to run in the 2024 Russian presidential election.
Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov continues efforts to distinguish himself in the Russian information space, infringing on the generally accepted boundaries between Russian federal subject (region) heads and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The US Department of Defense (DoD) announced a new security assistance package to Ukraine during US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin's visit to Kyiv on November 20.
Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, near Avdiivka, west and southwest of Donetsk City, in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and marginally advanced in some areas.
A Russian federal subject (region) and occupation officials are reportedly planning to work together to provide drones to Russian forces.
A Ukrainian official reported that Ukraine successfully returned 45 Ukrainian children whom Russian authorities forcibly deported to Russia in the past six months.
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Russia appears to be employing a known hybrid warfare tactic to artificially create a migrant crisis on the Finnish border. Finnish authorities closed four border checkpoints on Finland’s southeastern border with Russia on November 18 after the Finnish Border Guard reported that an influx of about 300 asylum seekers, mostly from Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, and Syria, had arrived at the Finnish border from Russia since September 2023.[1] Finnish Border Guards recorded 89 migrant crossings during a two-day period between November 7 and 14 — a sharp increase from the 91 crossings recorded from mid-July to November 12.[2] Four checkpoints currently remain open on Finland’s northeastern border with Russia with only two open for asylum applicants.[3] Reuters reported on November 19 that dozens of migrants arrived at the closed Finnish Nuijamaa and Vaalimaa crossings on November 18 and gathered around a campfire in sub-zero temperatures.[4] Finnish outlet Iltalehti reported on November 20 that Finnish authorities are considering closing the entire border with Russia on the night of November 21.[5] Finnish Prime Minister Petteri Orpo stated on November 14 that Russian border guards are escorting or transporting migrants to the Finnish border, and the Finnish government stated on November 16 that there are indications that “foreign authorities or other actors” have played a role in helping people illegally cross the border.[6] Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) reported on November 19 that Jouko Kinnunen, head of the Finnish Vartius checkpoint that currently remains open, stated that Russian border guards pushed migrants to the Finnish side of the barrier and then closed the Russian border barriers behind them.[7] It is unlikely that these migrants would continue to remain at the Finnish border in sub-zero temperatures of their own volition after Finnish border authorities denied their entrance into Finland, suggesting that Russia is likely involved in the situation in some way.
The Kremlin has denied Finland’s accusations about Russia’s involvement in creating an artificial influx of migrants. Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitri Peskov responded on November 17 to the announcement of the closure of the four checkpoints, stating that Finland had chosen a path of confrontation, which Peskov labeled as a “big mistake.”[8] Peskov also stated on November 20 that Finland’s possible decision to close the entire border “causes nothing but deep regret” and claimed that Finland’s “Russophobic” position has harmed Finnish-Russian relations of the past.[9]
Russia’s apparent hybrid warfare tactic on the Russian-Finnish border is similar to Russia’s and Belarus’ creation of a migrant crisis on the Polish border in 2021 and is likely similarly aimed at destabilizing NATO. ISW previously assessed that the Kremlin enabled, or possibly directly controlled, Belarus’ artificial creation of a migrant crisis on its border with Poland in 2021, when Belarusian security personnel aided thousands of Middle Eastern migrants in crossing the Belarusian border to Poland.[10] The Kremlin exploited the manufactured crisis in 2021 to falsely accuse NATO of aggression against Belarus
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:59 pm to WeeWee
USA funds 4 the war and Germany gets the contracts. Ineptitude of FBJ and Blikny is amazing.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:11 pm to StormyMcMan
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Russia is running out of people and is desperately trying to fix its gaping demographic holes. State Duma deputy Valery Seleznev proposed freeing female inmates if they manage to get pregnant and carry to term.
LINK
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:39 pm to StormyMcMan
vaguely reminiscent of WWII LendLease to the USSR, esp the trucks....
Posted on 11/20/23 at 7:58 pm to LSU7096
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USA funds 4 the war and Germany gets the contracts. Ineptitude of FBJ and Blikny is amazing.
It really is. We could easily supply Ukraine with 10-20 new export versions of the M1A2 and increase employment in Ohio just by adding a 3rd shift to the Lima tank plant. I don’t blame Ukraine at all because they have got to get their weapons from somewhere. However, it’s just stupid for the USA to give money to Ukraine so they can buy tanks and other stuff from Rheinmentall.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 8:53 pm to WeeWee
It’s obvious our military is phasing the tank out in areas, namely the Marines. I don’t see production ever coming close to what we did in the 1980’s and 90’s. If we spend to make new tech it’s going to aircraft, UAVs and ships to modernize the Navy. Honestly maxing out production of Javelins and Stingers would be more helpful. Beyween drones, artillery and anti-tank minefields miles thick I just don’t see the sense in it when assists can be used to better effect. By all means if we have M1A1s that can be brought back into service to give to Ukraine do it, same with the Bradley, but I doubt we see them with more orders for new equipment. Our 2,000 or so Abrams could waste Russia’s 5,000-6,000 T-72, T-90 and T-80s because we control the sky.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:13 pm to crazy4lsu
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You know I would punt you in the pussy ya big ol bitch.
I pretty sure he lives in Portlandia and would actually get off if you did that.
Was Sir Winston the person who reported a cougar in his neighborhood and it turned out to be an orange tabby cat?
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 10:17 pm to CitizenK
Looked at the sputnik battle field graphic just now. Appears the Russians woke up and kicked butt
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