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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:17 am to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:17 am to
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Ukraine will create a humanitarian corridor in the Black Sea

It will allow dozens of cargo ships stuck in the Black Sea ports after the start of the war to leave.

After Russia withdrew from the grain deal on July 17, it declared all ships that go to the ports of Ukraine as military targets.

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#Estonia will send #Ukraine a new package of small arms and ammunition, - Estonian Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur.

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The consequences of the strike of the invaders on the oil depot in the #Rivne region.


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Russia will soon deliver 25,000-50,000 tons of grain to six African countries free of charge, the Ministry of Agriculture said.

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The National Agency of #Ukraine for the Prevention of Corruption has included #Bacardi Limited in the list of "international sponsors of the war."

Bacardi is included in this list due to the fact that it continues to do business in #Russia.

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Azerbaijan joins the list of countries that will conduct training for Ukrainian demining specialists.

This was announced by Azerbaijani Ambassador to Ukraine Seymur Mardaliyev.

The Azerbaijani side also announced a new package of assistance to Ukraine, which will include a mechanized demining machine.

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Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:24 am to
@War_Mapper

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Russia have retaken positions south of Berkhivka near Bakhmut.





Ukraine's offensive to the north of Bakhmut has culminated, and the offensive on the southern flank has slowed significantly.

Unless something significant changes, Ukraine is not going to recapture Bakhmut this fall.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:35 am to
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Unless something significant changes, Ukraine is not going to recapture Bakhmut this fall.


It appears that may happen in all theaters.
Spring, Summer, Fall appears to be a big nothing burger all the way around.

Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4167 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:40 am to
With winter weather coming this thing is probably going to stalemate again til June, and then more of the same. Africa will probably get heated up during the winter.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16111 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:45 am to
Over two months from now
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:16 pm to
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It appears that may happen in all theaters.
Spring, Summer, Fall appears to be a big nothing burger all the way around.


Well, I think it's a little early to pronounce the failure of the offensive in the South. Ukraine is still making progress there and still has the initiative.

In the Bakhmut theater, Ukraine simply attacked with the same units that had previously been defending the city. Eventually, they allocated one of the new brigades to that area. That's a contrast to the South, where multiple new brigades with NATO equipment have been operating.

It's true that Ukraine is no longer "on pace" to break the Russian main lines before mud season, but Ukraine still believes that the pace will accelerate as they work to constrict Russian logistics, Russia fails to rotate units, and Ukraine is still able to devote additional mechanized brigades with NATO equipment to the effort.

In other words, I think that Ukraine is still planning to win its offensive in the South this fall. I don't think that they are still planning to complete the recapture of Bakhmut by the fall. The units there are running out of steam, and Ukraine doesn't want to rotate in the new brigades with NATO equipment, because it wants them for the South.


EDIT: And to be fair, I think that almost everyone considered the effort in the Bakhmut area to be a secondary effort. The main effort is in the South.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:22 pm to
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EDIT: And to be fair, I think that almost everyone considered the effort in the Bakhmut area to be a secondary effort. The main effort is in the South.


Believe me, I hope I’m wrong.
It just appears Russia has built strong defenses and their troops have stepped up their game as they have had successes on defense.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:27 pm to
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Believe me, I hope I’m wrong.
It just appears Russia has built strong defenses and their troops have stepped up their game as they have had successes on defense.


Well, I agree with that. If I were betting, I wouldn't bet on Ukraine achieving significant strategic victory before the arrival of mud season.

But I'm also not ruling it out, because Ukraine still has significant resources that they have not yet deployed, and they will continue to get more equipment (GLSDB, Abrams, etc.) that will assist them in their efforts. And their strategy of taking out Russian artillery and choking logistics could still result in a breakthrough.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16111 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 1:44 pm to
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It just appears Russia has built strong defenses and their troops have stepped up their game as they have had successes on defense.


At Bakhmut the defenses were built by Ukraine
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
628 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 1:50 pm to
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The WWII era steam turbines could take more RPM's than they would normally handle. Dad was on a cruiser (Nashville) in 1940 and they were sinking German subs a full year before WWII. They could travel at 45 knots and did so when responding to a call. That speed is well above what design said it could do.
We are getting OT, but I figured you might be interested in some truth to weed out the fiction. Some (not all) U.S. WWII-era ship steam main propulsion turbines were designed to take, in a real pinch, more steam and produce more power. But it was nothing like cruisers going 45 kts. For example, the Iowa-class battleships were designed for up to a 20% overload in terms of power output. But 20% more power output does not mean anything like 20% faster revolution much less 20% higher speed. You were basically looking at about 2 or maybe 3 kts faster. And the U.S. WWII cruisers had design top speeds of about 32-33 kts.

But on the more fundamental claim of the U.S. involvement in a de facto shooting war before December 7, 1941, that's true. See, e.g., LINK ]the Reuben James incident (Wiki).
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5727 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:36 pm to
Anton Gerashchenko
@Gerashchenko_en

A video appeared that shows the damaged Russian oil tanker Sig that was attacked by maritime drones last week.

Video
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:53 pm to
Don't know if anyone is following the Ruble valuation, but it's now in the top 3 weakest currency in the world this year due to the devaluation over the past 8 months.

For reference 1 USD to Ruble:
Jan 1, 2019: 69.17
Jan 1, 2020: 62.03
Jan 1, 2021: 73.91
Jan 1, 2022: 75.19
Feb 1, 2022: 77.30
Mar 1, 2022: 104.97
Mar 7, 2022: 139.25 <-peak
Apr 1, 2022: 81.72
May 1, 2022: 73.32
Jun 1, 2022: 62.72
Jun 30, 2022: 51.97 <- valley
Jul 1, 2022: 54.84
Aug 1, 2022: 62.22
Sep 1, 2022: 60.09
Oct 3, 2022: 60.22
Nov 1, 2022: 62.02
Dec 1, 2022: 60.99
Jan 1, 2023: 73.72
Feb 1, 2023: 70.55
Mar 1, 2023: 75.02
Apr 1, 2023: 77.97
May 1, 2023: 80.42
Jun 1, 2023: 81.52
Jul 3, 2023: 87.92
Aug 1, 2023: 91.62
Aug 10, 2023: 97.10
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 2:56 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150435 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:23 pm to
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the betrayal of NATO not honoring what was agreed to
preach. How the weat likes to act they arent breaking a signed treaty with Russia is pathetic
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61743 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Ruble valuation, but it's now in the top 3 weakest currency in the world this year due to the devaluation over the past 8 months.

Impossible!! This war was supposedly making Russia stronger. LOL
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:32 pm to
Washington Post:

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President Biden on Thursday asked Congress to approve $20.6 billion in additional funding for Ukraine, as that country’s military struggles to achieve a decisive victory in its counteroffensive against Russia.

In a letter to lawmakers, the White House Office of Management and Budget asked for $13 billion in new military aid and $8.5 billion in additional economic, humanitarian and security assistance for Ukraine and other countries affected by the war. The funding request also includes other forms of assistance for Ukraine.

The White House also is seeking more than $12 billion for disaster relief and other emergency domestic funds, including hurricanes, as well as tens of millions of dollars to boost pay for firefighters on the front lines of the wildfires that have hit many parts of the country.

In total, Biden is asking Congress for about $40 billion in new spending.
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:43 pm to
FTX and Sam Bankman Freed is one way. LINK
LINK 2 Though not proof, one can only wonder....

Honestly, I'd say Zelensky knows all the B.S. with Hunter & Joe concerning Barisma and this funding is partially a bribe, which is so extreme monetarily that some comes back to the D.C. Swamp.
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
1862 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:47 pm to
Nor do you receive any accurate information. This is just a narrative play and you feel the bad guys are the Russians because someone told you so.

Russia has a stronger following of their President than we have for ours. Russia doesn't put up with the shite that our Government allows. But if Russia is bad because you said, then you must be right?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42751 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:55 pm to
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preach. How the weat likes to act they arent breaking a signed treaty with Russia is pathetic


There was no signed treaty.
There was no agreement for NATO not to let Warsaw Pact countries in.
It’s a myth.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38393 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:58 pm to
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Russia doesn't put up with the shite that our Government allows. But if Russia is bad because you said, then you must be right?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:58 pm to
If you like Russia and authoritarianism so much, move there and pick up arms for the "cause"

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