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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:11 pm to ticklechain
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:11 pm to ticklechain
A new Gallup poll released today says that exactly 5% of Americans have a favorable view of Putin. I think that every last one of them posts in this thread and on the Poliboard.
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:25 pm to ruff fish
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Well, double standards again. Who was justified? America or the UN, or let's say India or Zimbabwe?
Idk what this means.
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Wagners appeared in Belarus much later than Poland pulled its soldiers to the Border.
I suppose the Belarusians trying to secretly dig under and across the Polish border like a year ago doesn’t count? Or Russian and Belarusian jabber about taking the Suwalki Gap or western Poland doesn’t either?
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And then you know that before the transfer of PMC Wagner, the Poles provoked the Belarusians to shoot? After the appearance of PMCs there, they also began to be rude to the Poles, but bolder. After that, provocations from Poland noticeably decreased.
They just flew two choppers into Polish air space last week…
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:29 pm to OutsideObserver
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Starting to see claims that Ukraine has entered and made progress through Urozhaine.
The village of Urozhaine (outlined in red) is a north-south strip. Ukraine entered the northern part two days ago, and today they pushed through the center.
One Russian milblogger was asking his readers for prayers for the Russian troops in the settlement.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:34 pm to ColtRange
I wonder if those are the same Russian SOF who dressed in Ukrainian uniforms (but the old style) and were all captured.
You do know that a number of the Russian videos have them using airsoft so pure Hollyweird.
You do know that a number of the Russian videos have them using airsoft so pure Hollyweird.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:45 pm to CitizenK
From multiple tweets...
Explosions were heard at Moscow's Domodedovo airport. This was reported in local social media.
Domodedovo airport is one of the largest civilian airports in Russia.
Explosions were heard at Moscow's Domodedovo airport. This was reported in local social media.
Domodedovo airport is one of the largest civilian airports in Russia.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:50 pm to GOP_Tiger
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A new Gallup poll released today says that exactly 5% of Americans have a favorable view of Putin. I think that every last one of them posts in this thread and on the Poliboard.
Poliboard posters are certifiable dumazzes much of the time.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:51 pm to cypher
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The Fire at an Industrial Area near Moscow Domodedovo International Airport near the Russian Capital has reportedly already been Controlled by Fire Crews, but Residents near the Site are claiming to have heard 2 “Loud Pops” before something Fell from the Sky and caused the fire
Footage of Firefighters on-site of the Explosion and Fire, the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations has stated that at least 1 Car was Destroyed and a nearby Building suffered Moderate Damage.
LINK
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:08 pm to StormyMcMan
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Speculations about the Wagner Group’s withdrawal from Belarus suggest that aspects of the deal between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin following Wagner’s armed rebellion on June 24 have collapsed.
Putin is likely still concerned about the threat that Prigozhin poses to his long-term goals and continues to focus on definitively separating Prigozhin from Wagner.
Alternatively, Putin may intend for Wagner's forces to return to Russia in order to facilitate the destruction or restructuring of Wagner.
The likely collapse of aspects of the Wagner-Putin-Lukashenko deal indicates that Putin has failed to decisively resolve issues posed by Prigozhin and Wagner following Wagner’s June 24 rebellion.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu attempted to justify the recreation of the Moscow and Leningrad Military Districts by reamplifying boilerplate rhetoric posturing NATO as an existential threat to Russia.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations on at least three sectors of the front and advanced in some areas on August 9.
The Russian veteran community may be attempting to rehabilitate the nominal Russian deputy theater commander in Ukraine, Army General Sergei Surovikin, following scrutiny over his affiliation with the Wagner Group.
Marchenkov’s interview may suggest that Surovikin and the anti-Gerasimov faction believe there is a chance for Surovikin to return to the frontlines.
Russian sources claimed that poor safety regulations led to an explosion near the Zagorsk Optical Mechanical Plant in Moscow on August 9, and notably most Russian sources did not suggest that Ukrainian actors may have been responsible for the incident.
Russian forces continued offensive operations on the Svatove-Kreminna line, in the Bakhmut area, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, along the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced on the Svatove-Kreminna line, north of Bakhmut, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations on at least three sectors of the front and advanced in some areas on August 9.
Footage published on August 9 further supports ISW’s assessments that the Ukrainian incursion near Kozachi Laheri in the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast on August 8 was likely a limited raid.
Russian forces may be moving military equipment through Kazakhstan to Russia, but ISW has observed no geolocated footage confirming these reports.
Russian officials appear to be setting conditions to justify the possible need to cancel or postpone regional elections in the occupied territories in case of Ukrainian counteroffensive successes.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:25 pm to GOP_Tiger
Food for thought, I don’t think this man is going to tell tales like the MSM.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:33 pm to immobileman
MacGregor may think that but it's not relevant to Putin's reasons for the war....
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:55 pm to immobileman
MacGregor has been telling tales since Feb 24th 2022. He always errors his faults on his sources.
Biggest doofuss on YouTube. You can see his almost weekly interview on Napolitano's Judging Freedom youtube channel. ALWAYS wrong.
I watch him often for shits and giggles.
Biggest doofuss on YouTube. You can see his almost weekly interview on Napolitano's Judging Freedom youtube channel. ALWAYS wrong.
I watch him often for shits and giggles.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:58 pm to immobileman
Two examples...
Kyiv as a feint, the Russian tanks are going sweep from the Donbas to take Kyiv over flat ground. The area east of the Dnipro is a series of ridges. Dude never looked at the geography.
Russia is going to take Odessa from Kherson. This was after the bridge was disabled and they were running out of supplies.
Kyiv as a feint, the Russian tanks are going sweep from the Donbas to take Kyiv over flat ground. The area east of the Dnipro is a series of ridges. Dude never looked at the geography.
Russia is going to take Odessa from Kherson. This was after the bridge was disabled and they were running out of supplies.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:45 pm to ColtRange
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Russian Special Forces go behind enemy lines
For those that don’t speak Russian, go behind enemy lines is a euphemism for invasion.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:10 pm to ColtRange
Ahh Colt, so earnest in your desire to stir the pot.
- No geolocation, this could be anywhere.
- Weird editing cuts to people being shot at who don't even look like they are near the buildings being attacked.
- Using a twitter account that promotes poor quality deep fake videos while styling itself as "The most in-depth look at the war in Ukraine. Dismantling Western propaganda serving geopolitical & military power plays."
You used to at least bring some semi decent sources, of late it's been very poor.
Edit: Clarity
- No geolocation, this could be anywhere.
- Weird editing cuts to people being shot at who don't even look like they are near the buildings being attacked.
- Using a twitter account that promotes poor quality deep fake videos while styling itself as "The most in-depth look at the war in Ukraine. Dismantling Western propaganda serving geopolitical & military power plays."
You used to at least bring some semi decent sources, of late it's been very poor.
Edit: Clarity
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:19 pm to immobileman
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Food for thought, I don’t think this man is going to tell tales like the MSM.
Your video link, like the MSM content you seek to lampoon, has the same nutritional content for your brain as scoffing down an entire bag of Twinkies does for your body.
Edit: Overnumerous clarity.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:41 pm to OutsideObserver
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Ahh Colt, so earnest in your desire to stir the pot.
- No geolocation, this could be anywhere.
- Weird editing cuts to people being shot at who don't even look like they are near the buildings being attacked.
- Using a twitter account that promotes poor quality deep fake videos while styling itself as "The most in-depth look at the war in Ukraine. Dismantling Western propaganda serving geopolitical & military power plays."
You used to at least bring some semi decent sources, of late it's been very poor.
I love how much time you spend trying to discredit every single thing I post. Sorry for providing some cool video, feel free to geolocate it.
Y'all dismiss every single thing a Russian source posts but you have no issues with Noelreports, Tendar, & Dmitri's propaganda (90% of the information on this thread comes from these sources). Along with Theiner & Igor, they are the most biased people I have seen covering this war, none every admit when they were wrong or discuss anything negative from the Ukrainian side. Meanwhile, Big Serge, Ayden, What the Media Hides, etc usually admit when they're wrong or when things are bad somewhere. Of course nothing they post is 100% accurate, you can say that about every single person covering the war.
You won't find posts like this from a single one of those sources above.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:03 pm to ColtRange
Kupyansk is in trouble.
Meanwhile in the south, Ukraine still stuck around Robotyne, two months into the counteroffensive.
Meanwhile in the south, Ukraine still stuck around Robotyne, two months into the counteroffensive.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:21 pm to ColtRange
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I love how much time you spend trying to discredit every single thing I post. Sorry for providing some cool video, feel free to geolocate it.
I am fine with a few minutes on challenging your previous post and this one.
It's your source, if you want it taken seriously rather than just use it to get attention the onus is on you. You are always happy to make a throw away jab but rarely do you answer serious questions or discussion about what you post.
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Y'all dismiss every single thing a Russian source posts but you have no issues with Noelreports, Tendar, & Dmitri's propaganda (90% of the information on this thread comes from these sources).
I couldn't careless if a source presented here is Ukrainian or Russian in approach and I have previously queried both types, my main interest is getting accurate information.
Noelreports and Tendar are aggregate accounts that are Pro-Ukrainian but usually back up their posts with further information such as geolocation and corrections, though there are plenty of instances when they have not. They are a good way of getting a quick snap shot of is happening which can then lead you to other more in depth sources to confirm. Dimitri is relatively accurate in his translations going by what he says versus basic translation programs though he is undoubtedly posting with a Pro-Ukrainian slant.
Most of the most newest information on the war is via Twitter and Telegram due to their ease of use at getting information out quickly. There is a prevalence to Twitter here due to it being more English language friendly and because of its country of origin. Does this mean the thread should source more widely? Sure, and many of the regular contributors do. Saying 90% of what is posted is the three above sources is a poor generalisation.
[quote]Along with Theiner & Igor, they are the most biased people I have seen covering this war, none every admit when they were wrong or discuss anything negative from the Ukrainian side.
Theiner and Igor are on another level of bollocks compared to the previous ones, it has been noted here several times including by myself that they are poor sources for anything other than surface level information.
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Meanwhile, Big Serge, Ayden, What the Media Hides, etc usually admit when they're wrong or when things are bad somewhere. Of course nothing they post is 100% accurate, you can say that about every single person covering the war.
I've used both Serge and Ayden before as sources but I disagree that any of them recant when they are wrong, if you can point out several examples I am happy to recant myself though.
On the other hand I have seen the latter two repeatedly resort to ad hominin attacks on people who question their posts, Serge will generally argue his position with reasoned arguments but does not back down either.
Serge also has a good understanding of tactics from the 18th-20th century but is not as good at 21st century ones - many of his earliest opinion pieces on how the war would progress have not eventuated as he claimed they would, though some portions have.
The other two are almost pure propaganda mouth pieces more interested in using the war to virtue signal their dissatisfaction with the U.S. than because of any interest in its outcome.
If you want a decent impartial one to check https://twitter.com/WarMonitors is one of the better ones at calling out either side, despite his ambivalence to the West due to where he lives.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 1:03 am to beerJeep
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Uhhh… when communist are fighting fascist, we, the normal people of the world, want the fight to go on as long as possible.
Let the subhuman fascist and the subhuman communist kill each other off.
Not only will I pay to watch, I’ll be extremely happy with each and every death on both sides.
One less communist or fascist in the world is ALWAYS a great thing.
Damn didn’t realize we had so many communist and fascist fans on TD. Care to chime in?
I might have intervened, but for some reason I am sure that you, who consider yourself a "normal people", do not understand at all what the communist or fascist idea is.
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