re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

What is this about with Biden activating pieces of our reserves?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/07/13/ordering-the-selected-reserve-and-certain-members-of-the-individual-ready-reserve-of-the-armed-forces-to-active-duty/

Why activate these troops?


And this
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/07/13/message-to-the-congress-on-ordering-the-selected-reserve-and-certain-members-of-the-individual-ready-reserve-of-the-armed-forces-to-active-duty/

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In accordance with section 12304(f) of title 10, United States Code, I am providing notice that I have authorized the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Department of the Navy, to order to active duty members and units of the Selected Reserve and appropriately designated Individual Ready Reserve members, without the consent of the member concerned, pursuant to 12304(a) of title 10, United States Code. Reserve mobilizations under this authorization are not to exceed 3,000 total members at any one time, of whom not more than 450 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve. These Reserve Component forces are to augment the active forces for Operation Atlantic Resolve to enhance the United States’ ability to sustain its heightened level of presence and operations in support of United States European Command.

A copy of the Executive Order I have issued is enclosed.

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Manpower shortages???

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100,000 plus dead and counting for absolutely nothing. Awesome deal!

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Go tell the Russians.

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Manpower shortages???

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That’s what I’ve seen suggested but don’t know if true.

Seems odd though. Anecdotally, I know of a few recently retired servicemen who all knew of others retiring/leaving service for the same reason. Combined with known recruitment shortfalls maybe there’s truth to it, maybe not. I don’t have a way to understand the scale of it.

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Awesome deal!

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it is for the ukranian nazis and their underground salt mines!! theyve made billions in cold hard cash!!

It will be interesting to hear their response to getting asked "Why did you activate these reserves?" If anyone will ask it.

I think that when it's announced what they are calling up, will give a good idea as to why they are calling them up.

ETA: I'm not aware of any pending massive shipments of war materials to Ukraine, enough so that it would require activating reserves to support.

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What is our ROI on the $ trillion that we handed to them of taxpayer money?

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It'd help to start getting the numbers right.

There hasn't been a transfer of a trillion dollars of goods or services or equipment. Through the end of May, its been about 77B in completed transactions, with a budgeted amount of somewhere in the neighborhood of 115B.


That said, its been a *fantastic* return on investment. Hell, the defense infrastructure rebuilding being done in Europe alone more than justifies the outlay, given how hard we have struggled to get NATO partners to live up to their commitments under the Trump administration-- this is a big win for a key element of Trump's NATO policy, even.

Oh, and then there's the net windfall of the denudding of the Russian military's offensive capability for conservatively 10 years, removing one of the two aspiring competitors to American military power. There's the follow on live action testing grounds for experimental tech, the complete rethinking of other enemies that have leaned on Russian arms purchases as the bulwark of their strategic planning for the last 20 years- the windfall is damned near invaluable.

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Hell, the defense infrastructure rebuilding being done in Europe alone more than justifies the outlay,

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Wait, are we paying for them to rebuild their defense infrastructure capacity?

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NATO partners to live up to their commitments under the Trump administration-- this is a big win for a key element of Trump's NATO policy, even.

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Trump was right about NATO. But Europe is full of whiny children who would rather throw a tantrum than give into Trump.

I have zero faith that Europe will continue to invest in defense after the war. They have zero incentive to.

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Oh, and then there's the net windfall of the denudding of the Russian military's offensive capability for conservatively 10 years, removing one of the two aspiring competitors to American military power. There's the follow on live action testing grounds for experimental tech, the complete rethinking of other enemies that have leaned on Russian arms purchases as the bulwark of their strategic planning for the last 20 years- the windfall is damned near invaluable.

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Meh, outside of its nukes Russia is a regional threat, and not even a very competent one because they can’t even take over Ukraine.

The money would’ve had been better spent building more ships and navy bases in the Pacific to counter the real threat.

Just wanting to confirm. We are all okay with sending money to a country that housed 20+ biolabs that researched viral weaponry and not okay when a country claims violation of the Biological Weapons Treaty Act of 1975, right?

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Just wanting to confirm. We are all okay with sending money to a country that housed 20+ biolabs that researched viral weaponry and not okay when a country claims violation of the Biological Weapons Treaty Act of 1975, right?

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Link ya sauce yo.

You ask for a link. I used search engines.

www.google.com