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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:36 pm to Hateradedrink
Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:36 pm to Hateradedrink
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I think it’s a bit more complex. Spacex likely has a ton of DoD hands in the jar- both on and off the books.
From what I have read they have:
1) Picked up the contract from the Pentagon to send spy satellites into space in June last year.
2) Are being paid for the Starlink services in Ukraine since at least December.
3) Likely they will get the contract to develop and implement Starshield, the military secure version of Starlink.
So yes, Musk appears to have benefited from his assistance to Ukraine, despite his protests to the contrary.
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:47 pm to OutsideObserver
Stanislav Rzhytskiy, deputy head of mobilization department in Russian Krasnodar, was shot while out for a run. He has been posting his runs on Strava recently. One of his recent runs was liked by an account purportedly held by Kyrylo Budanov. BTW he has been around lately, wonder if the ones that were sure he was dead know this.
Even personal OPSEC violations can get you killed.
Even personal OPSEC violations can get you killed.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:58 pm to Obtuse1
He was Putin'd.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 6:01 pm to Obtuse1
Shot in the back and front 4 times by a gunman is certainly an odd suicide.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 6:02 pm to DabosDynasty
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Wonder why this now vs say 6-12 months ago? Not much has changed as far as territory since, and the media reports the counteroffensive has been a failure or minimum lackluster. But now they’ve finally decided to go with this?
Happy for the update, just curious why now vs the previous 6-12 months. What goes into that calculus?
I generally ignore the main stream media reports on the offensive. They are frequently several days behind and are as much about painting a good/bad propaganda picture, depending on the target audience, as reporting the news.
Finland and Sweden had a similar waving of the MAP requirements so with them now both formally joining NATO this set a precedent that didn't exist last year to offer it to Ukraine. Furthermore back then the West likely didn't think Ukraine could be successful in ousting Russia so offering it would not have been worthwhile.
The fact they have now is a potential indicator that they have changed this stance and have a timeframe in mind for their success or possible a brokered peace in favour of Ukraine, though this point is very much me hypothesising.
I also suspect that this, posted by GOP_Tiger, played a significant part in the MAP announcement regarding Ukraine.
> Coupled with the recent Wagner saga in Russia these announcements look to be a multi pronged attack on Putin's image within Russia and his messaging, it's hard to keep saying the West is decadent and falling apart when these sorts of unifying actions continue while you have had an attempted mutiny at home, especially in the face of the Western countries indeed having their own internal issues as well.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 6:06 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Massive boost for NATO and for Ukraine.
Very big news indeed, though I feel sorry for the forum moderators.
The thread looks to have just had a clean up since it dropped back several pages in length since yesterday and I will be very surprised if we don't get a new influx of inflammatory drive by posting due to this.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 6:33 pm to DabosDynasty
This exchange helps explain how deep cultural difference make Turkey ill suited for EU membership.
Most candidates would (and have) argued how cultural identity and economic interdependence counsel a coalition of brothers.
Erdogen doesn’t bother with any such effort and makes a proposal for an exchange worthy of a middle eastern rug bizarre: I’ll agree to let Sweden in to NATO (there is no principled reason to exclude them) and you let us in EU.
He doesn’t even bother to argue the merits of either coalition.
It’s just another trade.
Your rug for my rug.
Most candidates would (and have) argued how cultural identity and economic interdependence counsel a coalition of brothers.
Erdogen doesn’t bother with any such effort and makes a proposal for an exchange worthy of a middle eastern rug bizarre: I’ll agree to let Sweden in to NATO (there is no principled reason to exclude them) and you let us in EU.
He doesn’t even bother to argue the merits of either coalition.
It’s just another trade.
Your rug for my rug.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 6:48 pm to nitwit
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I’ll agree to let Sweden in to NATO (there is no principled reason to exclude them) and you let us in EU.
Except that he knows that he isn't getting into the EU. That was simple political theater. He needed something to demonstrate his toughness to a domestic audience. So, he got Sweden to promise to support Turkey's bid to join the EU. That way, it doesn't look like he gave in and got nothing out of the deal.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 7:00 pm to Obtuse1
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Stanislav Rzhytskiy, deputy head of mobilization department in Russian Krasnodar, was shot while out for a run. He has been posting his runs on Strava recently. One of his recent runs was liked by an account purportedly held by Kyrylo Budanov. BTW he has been around lately, wonder if the ones that were sure he was dead know this.
If true and actually Kyrylo Budanov of Ukrainian Intelligence it is hands down the troll of the war thus far for me. He certainly has been doing a lot of appearances/work recently for a deceased gent.
A bit of further info/reporting tho nothing convincing.
https://twitter.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1678543407310946304
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Oooofff
And yes, this is a thing. The U.S. military cracked down on the use of fitness trackers and Strava due to the OPSEC risk
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https://twitter.com/mexic0la_/status/1678524860186648582
The Krasnodar commander that was fatally shot in Russia while on a run would routinely post his route on the Strava workout app. This one from recently was liked by Kyrylo Budanov: you literally can’t make this shite up
Posted on 7/10/23 at 7:11 pm to GOP_Tiger
Rybar sounds concerned about the announcement from Rheinmetall that they are building a tank and APC plant in Ukraine: LINK
I marked Chernivtsi on a map for you.
It's famous for it's university, founded by the Austro-Hungarian empire, back when the city was called Czernowitz.
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About the possible location of the future Rheinmetall plant in Ukraine
The head of the Rheinmetall concern announced an agreement to establish a plant (LINK for the production of military equipment in Ukraine, which is planned to be built within three months.
Although he did not tell about the location of the facility or other details, according to our information, construction work has been going on for more than a month, and the enterprise itself is being built in Transcarpathia near the village of Chernotisov. Several signs point to this:
- Columns of trucks with gravel, bulldozers and other equipment are continuously passing through Vynohradiv: residents note that there is simply not so much concrete for such a number of concrete mixers in all of Transcarpathia. Trailers stuffed with soil are coming back, which indicates the construction of underground structures to protect against missile attacks.
- All activities are accompanied by camouflage: cars follow without stopping, armed people appeared at checkpoints. No one knows either the exact location or the nature of the object: people joke that even if the local gypsies shrug, they are really building something secret.
- Deployment close to the Romanian border is beneficial logistically and for security reasons: Rheinmetall clearly expects that the Russian Armed Forces will not hit the plant because of the likelihood of a miss and an international scandal.
Information about the arrival of Germans in one of the cities, who were looking for Russian translators on the local market, also speaks in favor. Against the backdrop of large-scale construction with underground structures in conditions of total secrecy, this is not a coincidence.
I marked Chernivtsi on a map for you.
It's famous for it's university, founded by the Austro-Hungarian empire, back when the city was called Czernowitz.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:31 pm to GOP_Tiger
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian officials stated on July 10 that Ukrainian forces have fire control over Bakhmut and Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) around the city.
Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations on at least three sectors of the front on July 10.
Russian Chief of the General Staff and overall theater commander Army General Valery Gerasimov’s first public appearance since Wagner’s rebellion supports ISW’s previous assessment that he will likely retain his official position within the Russian military.
The Kremlin and Western intelligence officials reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin on June 29 (and/or July 1) following Wagner’s armed rebellion on June 24.
Putin’s decision to meet with Prigozhin is inconsistent with the Kremlin’s prior rhetoric about Prigozhin and his role within the Wagner private military company (PMC).
A Kremlin-affiliated war correspondent characterized the Putin-Prigozhin meeting as the Kremlin’s attempt to “gently” replace Prigozhin and restructure Wagner.
Gerasimov’s public reemergence and the acknowledgment of the Putin-Prigozhin meeting is likely a part of the Kremlin’s wider narrative effort to portray itself as fully in control following Wagner’s rebellion while also reaching out to those who lean toward loyalty toward Wagner and especially Prigozhin himself.
It is unclear whether any agreements between the Kremlin and Prigozhin will prompt significant numbers of Wagner personnel to agree to sign contracts with the MoD.
Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov claimed that Chechen Akhmat Special Forces have deployed to the Bakhmut direction, but a local Ukrainian commander denied having encountered Chechen forces, suggesting that these Chechen elements are not making significant frontline contributions to Russian operations in Ukraine.
Former Russian officer and prominent critical nationalist milblogger Igor Girkin claimed on July 10 that he managed to deliver a speech in St. Petersburg despite efforts by law enforcement to censor him and prevent the speech from happening
Russian and Ukrainian forces conducted ground attacks along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line and in the Bakhmut direction.
Russian forces conducted ground attacks along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.
Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations south of Orikhiv in western Zaporizhia Oblast on July 10.
Russian forces are continuing to suffer significant casualties on the battlefield.
Russian occupation officials acknowledged widespread utility service disruptions in occupied Donetsk Oblast.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:39 pm to OutsideObserver
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I generally ignore the main stream media reports on the offensive. They are frequently several days behind and are as much about painting a good/bad propaganda picture, depending on the target audience, as reporting the news.
For sure, I only mentioned it because of govt influence on said media, not necessarily that it was an accurate reflection of the total picture of the counteroffensive.
Just feels like there’s some reasoning behind now vs the past 6-12 months because on the whole not a lot has changed about the war in that time frame from a macro perspective.
Certainly feels like some significant movement today on the indirect war related front - waiving of MAP for Ukraine, Turkey approving Sweden for NATO, Turkey reneging on the Russians for the Azov fighter deal, Turkey unilaterally guaranteeing grain shipments safety in the Black Sea. Big moves on the situation imo.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:42 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Rybar sounds concerned about the announcement from Rheinmetall that they are building a tank and APC plant in Ukraine
I saw a report on another twitter thread (that unfortunately wasn't one of the main ones I check and I can't remember the account so no link sorry) that Rheinmetall claims the facility will be operational within 12 weeks - though this may just be the repair part of it.
Also, further on the supply front, this will go some of the way to maintaining supply for 155mm shells, though no details on how long this ramp up will take which has been exacerbated by supply chain issues post Covid.
https://www.ft.com/content/e04398d7-b4d4-4951-963c-6bd33665ff8e
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BAE Systems has secured new orders from the UK to boost production of munitions as western governments seek to alleviate a global shortage that is hampering Ukraine’s fight against Russia.
The £280mn agreement, which could increase in value to more than £400mn, will enable Britain’s biggest defence contractor to raise its production capacity of key 155mm artillery shells eight-fold.
Defence executives have repeatedly warned that they need firm contracts from governments in order to be able to invest the significant sums needed to expand production facilities. Supply chain constraints coming out of the Covid pandemic have also delayed ramp-up plans.
Charles Woodburn, BAE chief executive, said the investment would enable the company to “significantly ramp up production and sustain vital sovereign capability to deliver cutting-edge munitions, whilst creating and sustaining highly-skilled jobs across the UK”.
The announcement comes as Nato allies are expected to agree a blueprint for multinational co-operation on procurement when they meet in Vilnius, the Lithuanian capital, this week. The so-called “Defence Production Action Plan” is also expected to urge countries to streamline standards to ensure interoperability between different nations’ weapons systems.
Estimated production prior to the war was at around 20,000 a year/56 per day, so this would be raised it to 160,000 a year/445 per day.
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/europes-155mm-ammo-stocks-where-they-should-be-and-how-to-get-there/
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BAES, Nammo, and Nexter, prior to any requests to boost 155mm production, were doing likely 20,000 rounds annually, maybe – just about – 30,000 rounds.
Edit: Clarity
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:42 pm to OutsideObserver
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The Krasnodar commander that was fatally shot in Russia while on a run would routinely post his route on the Strava workout app. This one from recently was liked by Kyrylo Budanov: you literally can’t make this shite up
Damn he was a fast mfer though. Speed (or sharing it) really does kill.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:52 pm to crazy4lsu
Oh no, no, no, no NAFO sisters. Looks like we lost 7 more Bradleys today, at least one Leopard 2A6 and a few more armored vehicles.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:53 pm to ruffleforeskin
This thread needs to be anchored.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:56 pm to DabosDynasty
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For sure, I only mentioned it because of govt influence on said media, not necessarily that it was an accurate reflection of the total picture of the counteroffensive.
Just feels like there’s some reasoning behind now vs the past 6-12 months because on the whole not a lot has changed about the war in that time frame from a macro perspective.
Certainly feels like some significant movement today on the indirect war related front - waiving of MAP for Ukraine, Turkey approving Sweden for NATO, Turkey reneging on the Russians for the Azov fighter deal, Turkey unilaterally guaranteeing grain shipments safety in the Black Sea. Big moves on the situation imo.
My impressions is that our aging political systems have a propensity to move slowly due to bureaucratic girth, both the Covid and Ukraine situations have highlighted how ill prepared this can make responses when agility is required, at least initially.
Things definitely seem to be moving at a faster pace off stage from the war recently, whether this is because of the speed of the offensive, because the systems have adapted to a more war time agility, or because ducks have been lined up isn't clear yet.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:56 pm to dkreller
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:58 pm to ruffleforeskin
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Oh no, no, no, no NAFO sisters. Looks like we lost 7 more Bradleys today, at least one Leopard 2A6 and a few more armored vehicles.
Damn, so how much territory did Russia gain?
Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:01 pm to OutsideObserver
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I saw a report on another twitter thread (that unfortunately wasn't one of the main ones I check and I can't remember the account so no link sorry) that Rheinmetall claims the facility will be operational within 12 weeks - though this may just be the repair part of it.
Meaning it was already in the process of being built. Delivery time on tooling is not measured in weeks, at best in months. I have recently been talking with OEM's about equipment pricing and delivery times. Pricing is up a shitton and delivery up to 2 years on rather simple items
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