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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30448 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:09 am to
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Some unfortunate news for the OSINT community Oryx is handing in the towel from October 1st.


I am honestly not surprised. I have been thinking from about 6 months into the war that they might have bit off more than they wanted to chew. Tracking the material losses from both sides was a much bigger job than anything else they had ever done and the timeline was relentless all for "free".
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:11 am to
Video at link
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1670722024044392448
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Can it get any crazier? Yes, that's possible.

The Russian Ministry of Defense claims that the US is planning to release mosquitoes using UAVs to infect enemy troops.

"The high technical readiness of the US to use infected vectors is evidenced by a patent for an unmanned aerial vehicle designed to disperse infected mosquitoes in the air. In accordance with the description, the drone must deliver a container with insects to a given area and release them. When bitten, mosquitoes can infect military personnel with a dangerous infection, such as malaria," Lieutenant General Ihor Kyrylov said.

Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14807 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:11 am to
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I don’t follow the war as close as some do, what would those who do follow it say is the ratio of missiles and/or drones that get through to their target compared to those shot down?


i think it depends on the target city. Kyiv has the best AD concentration. seems like they get 80-90% that target that area. other areas of the country, especially those cities very close to the front have much lower success rates.
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
1121 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:32 am to
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It appears the interception ratio is around 90% or so with missiles and if you believe Ukraine, almost 100% with the Iranian drones.


It's amazing to me what people are willing to believe.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:34 am to
Oh boy. There is a video posted in the past 9 or 10 hrs of r/CombatFootage of Ukrainian SF entering a Russian trench and killing about 10 soldiers. (That's the title of the video if anyone would like to search it out and view it for themselves.)

I'm not gonna post it here because I don't want to chance being banned, but it is not full of gore or anything, it's just Russians getting shot point blank as they're blindly running past or around corners. The difference is training is absurd.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:34 am to
Man you ain’t just whistlin’ dixie
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:47 am to
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One Russian source was boasting that the total number of destroyed Ukrainian vehicles today would end up looking like those of the first day of fighting there.


I’m guessing this info from a few days ago was false. Seems like we would have seen some videos or pictures from Russia if it were true
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:48 am to
Yea it is a very intense video, it isn't hard to find, it's all over Twitter.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:10 am to
This story for the BBC from reporter Quentin Sommerville is so good that I felt I need to copy almost all of it.

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The BBC joined the 68th Jaeger Brigade as its combat forces sought to expand their control eastward of the recently regained village of Blahodatne.

In their sights were a series of trenches protecting Russian forces on nearby hilltops.

The men of a specialised drone unit grab cameras, roll cables and load a pickup truck with tins of ammunition, crates of smoke grenades and armour-piercing rounds.

Aside from them, there's little sign of life in Blahodatne. Down a lane, the wreckage of two heavily armoured American-made MRAP vehicles lie stranded, one a burnt-out shell. There are more of these mine-resistant vehicles disabled in the fields beyond.

"Steer clear of those, the Russians keep hitting them," we are warned.
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Another salvo comes in and the soldiers take cover in the cellar of a ruined house.

A dirt floor passageway is lit with oil lamps, casting soft yellow light down its length to a stone and iron stove with three sturdy pots atop. Towels hang from a washing line. A rough wooden door opens and, in a headscarf, Nina Fedorivna emerges.

She has been living down here for the past year. Russian soldiers came by only once, she says.

She never, for a second, considered leaving the village.

Nina Fedorivna refused to leave Blahodatne
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The artillery barrage over, we leave through a lane at the end of her house. Three Russian corpses lie in a ditch, just beyond Nina Fedorivna's vegetable patch. A truck with the Z symbol, which was used by Russian forces, sits nearby riddled with bullet and shrapnel holes. The fighting here was at close quarters.

Throughout the village roses are in bloom - but the smell of corpses catches the back of your throat.

There's no time to delay - the soldiers have an air of concentration and purpose. They are clearly preparing for something.

They head east, leaving Blahodatne behind. The two-car convoy is well spaced in case of Russian attack. The fields around are heavily mined, poles with red-and-white ribbon mark cleared ground.

As we get close to another abandoned American armoured vehicle, there's an explosion, just missing the wreckage. It is likely from a Russian drone.

I was in this area back in March. Then, the front lines had barely moved a few metres in months. Russia was using far more artillery than Ukrainian forces, who mainly hunkered down in trenches waiting for the barrages to end. At the time, a commander told me they were conserving their shells for the counter-offensive. On this visit, Ukrainian guns didn't stop for the two days I was with the brigade.

The cars speed on to a network of trenches hidden in a line of trees. There, company commander, Senior Sergeant Andrii Onistrat, 49, runs his men through their next mission - a Ukrainian assault is planned for the next day on the Russian trenches, 3km (1.8 miles) away at the foot of the low hills to the south.

In their attempt to widen the front, sections of the 68th Brigade will attack from the countryside east of Blahodatne and Makarivka, across minefields and directly in the line of Russian fire.

Sgt Onistrat runs through the drone team's communication protocols and targets. The section loses as many as five drones a day. Tanned and with a brilliant white grin, he looks at his grim-faced men and gives one final order: "Smile - why are you so serious? We are winning the war."
Sgt Andrii Onistrat, Company commander, 68th Brigade
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Twenty-four hours later, most of the same men are in a sweltering dugout. The attack is under way.

From their surveillance cameras I can see two armoured vehicles slowly making their way through the minefield. Drone after drone is sent above the Russian positions dropping smoke grenades, creating a smoke screen along the Russian-occupied trenches to allow vehicles to advance and confuse enemy anti-tank weapons. As I watch, Ukrainian shells repeatedly strike the treeline.

Yuri, a young soldier, runs in and out of the dugout, changing drone batteries and sending them into flight, while voices bark orders and target positions across the radios. Mosquitoes and horseflies are feasting on the men, but still "Frisbee", from western Ukraine, has taken his shirt off because of the heat.

Their enemy isn't holding back. As I stand outside, a Russian strike lands close enough to throw dirt into the trench. Standing lookout in wrap-around shades and without body armour is Zheka.

Another Russian shell lands close and I hit the ground. I look up and Zheka hasn't flinched. He shouts in English - expletives directed at the Russians - and gives two middle fingers to the air. Salvoes of Grad rockets rain down on Ukrainian positions.
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Sgt Onistrat says this weighs heavily on him. "The severity of the day depends solely on one thing - the number of people we lose. The last week has been extremely difficult. We have lost a large number of people."

On his head he wears a ballistic helmet, a size too small. I mention it and he starts to weep. "It was my son's," he says.

Ostap Onistrat, 21, was killed in a drone strike not far from where we speak, a couple of days before the counter-offensive began. He'd been in the army a year.

His father is still in the throes of grief. "A kamikaze drone flew to them and in fact hit him directly. It was impossible to recognise him. He was buried in a closed coffin," Sgt Onistrat says.
Sgt Onistrat lost his son Ostap (right) just days before the counter-offensive began
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How does he go on, I ask. "I made a commitment. You know, we're here to win. Not to sit back, not to escape. I just think that every person here must do their job professionally. There is nothing heroic in it. I just have to finish this job."

When I ask if he's looking for revenge, he replies firmly: "Revenge is a sin.

"My task is to bring this story to an end. I want to take part in the victory parade. I want us to win, and I want to lose fewer people."

We leave the front, the offensive still under way. Later, I received a message telling me they'd taken the Russian positions.

Returning to the command post, Sgt Onistrat's car escorting us swerves and comes to a sudden stop. He, along others, quickly exit the vehicle. I wonder if we too need to take cover.

Then I see what's caught their attention - cherry trees.

Like kids, they laugh carefree for a moment as they grab handfuls of the dark red fruit from the shady branches, as artillery and mortar fire continues to hammer Russian positions on the hillside.
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
2122 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:13 am to
There're not telling you what's really happening there. The Russians are killing Ukrainians at a 8 to 1 ratio. This is going to be over in 6 weeks.
America will look like we always do when we meddle in other countries business. Mindless fools.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:16 am to
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The Russians are killing Ukrainians at a 8 to 1 ratio.


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This is going to be over in 6 weeks.


Ok

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There're not telling you what's really happening there


Alters dont make you guys any smarter.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:31 am to
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H newman


Go away
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:51 am to
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There're not telling you what's really happening there.


Using this logic, how are you getting this

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The Russians are killing Ukrainians at a 8 to 1 ratio. This is going to be over in 6 weeks.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:58 am to
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here're not telling you what's really happening there. The Russians are killing Ukrainians at a 8 to 1 ratio.


10:1, get your facts straight
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:58 am to
Sure dude and why Russian MoD is already coming up with the mosquitos unleashed to infect Russian troops.

Meanwhile in Feb/March 2022, Covid and Lyme disease swept through Ukraine's forces while they were throwing back the Russians.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:02 am to
Glad that you believe PEDO Scott Ritter, Col "Aways Wrong" MacGregor, Larry "never did much" Johnson, and company
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21123 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:07 am to
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The Russians are killing Ukrainians at a 8 to 1 ratio. This is going to be over in 6 weeks.

Setting a reminder for July 31st now
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:10 am to
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There're not telling you what's really happening there


I’m interested in getting the facts. Do you have a link to where I can go and find what is really happening, or do you have a secret source?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:15 am to
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There're not telling you what's really happening there. The Russians are killing Ukrainians at a 8 to 1 ratio.


I just want you to know that rehab works. There is hope.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:25 am to
Q predicted this
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