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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:00 am to
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:00 am to
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7-1 death reported on tucker. god you guys killed a lot of ukrainians for nothing and look like asses


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You’re the idiot who thinks Ukraine can win on their own don’t be a salty bitch even if it’s not 7:1, it’s definitely not Ukraine with the upper hand like you’ve claimed.


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like you’ve claimed


Oh the irony
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 9:03 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14808 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:01 am to
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You’re the idiot who thinks Ukraine can win on their own don’t be a salty bitch even if it’s not 7:1, it’s definitely not Ukraine with the upper hand like you’ve claimed.



he is referencing the US document that was leaked that showed 16k-17.5k KIA for Ukraine and 35.5k-43.5k KIA for Russia.



that is US intelligence reporting through March 1st per the leaked document. Granted, that is an estimate. but if you look at the losses for plane/helos/vehicles for both sides n the reports it is in line with losses reported by Oynx that have been visually confirmed.

What document or data (not Ukrainian or Russian) shows KIA rations in Russias favor?

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:03 am to
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momentoftruth87

You're melting.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:10 am to
Nah nah nah dawg, I like the one that was all blurry so it's easier to shop, mostly because it supports my narrative.








Did I do it right?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138811 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:16 am to
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7:1
7:1 is garbage. I'm surprised Tucker would go there. If he does, it may well be his Dan Rather moment.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:18 am to
The Kremlin is counting on the soy boy brigade to win if for them in the USA.

Note of all the ex military analysts who have made claims how Russia is kicking arse. They have all worked at one time for Russia Today. Then there are the longtime far leftists like Mates and Hershs.
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 9:20 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68333 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:21 am to
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If we blow through the puffery, the bottom line is that military experts in Washington all but predict that Russia is set to prevail, and Ukraine is set to lose.

And what does it mean to you? Well, the world is about to change, and I mean big-time. In a minute I’ll explain why. First, let’s get to the documents.

Per the Pentagon’s own documents, Ukraine’s conflict with Russia is a lost cause.

By whatever means the docs escaped, in essence these leaks constitute a grim pre-mortem. Or call them an advanced autopsy on a dying political-military organism with no chance of survival.

For Ukraine, things are on track to end badly, if not catastrophically. By extension the same goes for NATO, much of the rest of Europe and certainly for the U.S. and its national interests.

Prepare for another U.S. debacle like previous geostrategic disasters in Vietnam (1975) and Afghanistan (2021). Except this time around, the looming Ukraine calamity will dwarf the outcomes of Saigon and Kabul. Because no country can lose a war this big, and fail this badly, without significant blowback; political, military and economic.

At this point I must say something: I’m a retired U.S. Navy officer, obliged by law and regulation to state that everything here is personal opinion. I do not speak on behalf of the Navy, Department of Defense or U.S. government. Plus, I’ll add that at this stage of life I’m a humble geologist who moonlights as a newsletter writer. I have no access — zero, zippo, nada, nothing — to classified government material. Thus, everything that follows is based on my review of what’s out in the public domain.

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Allow me to distill two years of study at the Naval War College into two short sentences:

1) Armies fight battles, but energy, industry and logistics win wars.

2) Modern war is industrial war, certainly when the conflict involves large nations.

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Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:27 am to
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don’t be a salty bitch even if it’s not 7:1, it’s definitely not Ukraine with the upper hand like you’ve claimed.


I’m glad you’re finally admitting you fell for bullshite. It explains why you’re so defensive. If it was 7:1 Russia would have been in Kiev yesterday.
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17571 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:32 am to
It would be super cool if this thread would go back to updates on the war.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65763 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:44 am to
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Ukraine’s Allies Fear War Breakthrough May Not Come Before Next Year


"It'll come! We just have to keep sending more money!"
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:51 am to
Like tucker reporting 7:1. That’s why I posted, even if not true it’s mainstream and it will get a reaction from normal ppl who don’t pay attention. We’re told Ukraine is good, more money, they are winning. If there’s any truth that Ukraine is losing or not going as told, the people need to hear it. This really needs to be addressed by Congress
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72303 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 9:56 am to
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Like tucker reporting 7:1. That’s why I posted, even if not true


spoiler Alert - it's not even close to accurate

Only a true moron would believe anything close to that with how the war has actually gone
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 9:58 am
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42607 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:00 am to
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Like tucker reporting 7:1. That’s why I posted, even if not true it’s mainstream and it will get a reaction from normal ppl who don’t pay attention. We’re told Ukraine is good, more money, they are winning. If there’s any truth that Ukraine is losing or not going as told, the people need to hear it. This really needs to be addressed by Congress


Please define “winning”.

Ukraine has battled and stopped Russia. They regained land previously lost including two key cities. But are they “winning”?

They are winning in the sense that by now most thought it would be over by now and that Russia would be in control. But they have still lost land that they previously controlled prior to Feb of 22. They still have Russia bombarding their population and they are still battling a Russian offense that is slowly whittling away at their defenses.

So please define “winning” because things are not black or white.

And nothing I posted is secret. It’s out that for anyone interested to see. Nothing is hidden.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4332 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:11 am to
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Ukraine’s Allies Fear War Breakthrough May Not Come Before Next Year

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But I also do not place much weight on quotes by unnamed Western officials
Agreed. These UWO's don't know any more than we do.

The timing of the coming offensive may be a mystery but once started I believe the Ukrainans will continue to do what they've been doing all along - surprise us in a very positive way.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:12 am to
The Ukrainian leadership claims that it did not share its most confidential information because of doubts about the ability of the United States to keep secrets.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41066 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:19 am to
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Like tucker reporting 7:1. That’s why I posted, even if not true it’s mainstream and it will get a reaction from normal ppl who don’t pay attention.


At least he started a conversation
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:22 am to
Not sure what this was.


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Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:24 am to
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The Ukrainian leadership claims that it did not share its most confidential information because of doubts about the ability of the United States to keep secrets.


This really should be the case between all governments.

This also tells me that Ukraine does have its own good intel and doesn't rely on the US for HUMINT
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:25 am to
Head shot but saved by the helmet.



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Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 10:28 am to
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