re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Their attack had nothing to do with what happened in the separatist regions of Ukraine

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Sure Jan

Says the person parroting the dumbest and most ridiculous Russian propaganda. When Russia claims to have destroyed 46 HIMARS in Ukraine, you are the target audience.

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Says the person parroting the dumbest and most ridiculous Russian propaganda. When Russia claims to have destroyed 46 HIMARS in Ukraine, you are the target audience.

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You believe the CNN and other TV media casualty reports.

And anything the Biden administration says.

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Three months before Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine, CIA Director William Burns and U.S. Ambassador to Russia John Sullivan met in Moscow with Nikolai Patrushev, an ultra-hawkish adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Burns and Sullivan informed Patrushev that they knew of Russia’s invasion plans and that the West would respond with severe consequences if Russia proceeded. According to Burns, Patrushev said nothing about the invasion. Instead, he looked them in the eye, conveying what Burns took as a message: the Russian military could achieve what it wanted.

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February 16, 2022, a full week before Putin

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So, the question we must all ask ourselves is this: Is the bombardment and slaughter of one’s own people an ‘act of war’?

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I mean how much more disingenuous can Ron Paul be?

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Ron Paul’s take on Ukraine

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No one takes Ron Paul seriously except for the recovering drug addicts and ex convicts who treat him like a religious figure. Which are you?

Out of curiosity did Ron Paul say anything about Russia poisoning the Ukrainian president in 2004 or shooting down a civilian airliner in 2014? Would shooting down flight MH17 be considered a provocation?

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a provocation that was aimed at goading Russia into a war.

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The Russian entered Ukraine in 2014 and captured Crimea and parts of the Donbas. There was fighting going on in the Donbas since 2014.

Were the Russians shelling Ukrainian forces? Sure they were. Were Ukrainian forced shelling Russian forces including Ukrainians who sided with Russia? Sure they were. Were civilians caught up in the carnage? Certainly.

Russia started the war in 2014, and ratcheted things up last year. They weren’t acting as a big brother, they were acting in their own self interest and wanted more of Ukraine.

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No one takes Ron Paul seriously except for the recovering drug addicts and ex convicts who treat him like a religious figure. Which are you?

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that is not even close to true

i dont agree with him here but dont flip flop because you dont like what he is saying this time. its ok to not agree on a point without trying to act like the man is a lunatic because he isnt and has been right on more issues than any other.

foreign policy actually isnt his strongsuit despite how he like to think but the MFer has been nostrodamus when it comes to domestic issues.

to the point of the article...the war didnt start in feb, it started in 2014 at the latest. and ukraine was in the midst of a civil war with the donbas.

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I have no idea honestly. This could go any number of different ways at this point. I’ve long thought they should have given them a couple dozen of the newly retired Super Cobra attack helicopters from the Marines with this being trench warfare with aviation basically always flying on the deck to avoid being hit by SAMs. I’m sure Ukraine will take whatever the first western 4th gen fighter is offered to them and would be happy to have Mirage 2000s. The f-16 is the superior aircraft but they definitely wouldn’t turn their nose up at French fighters.

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Here's the thing, though: from everything I read, I'm pretty sure that Storm Shadow missiles can't be fired from F-16s. They were jointly developed by Britain and France (the French call it SCALP, and it's the same missile except that the attachment to the aircraft is slightly different).

If the US isn't giving ATACMS, and the UK is willing to send Storm Shadow, then Ukraine needs an aircraft that could fire them. I've seen some speculation that, just as Ukrainian MiGs were MacGyvered into firing HARM, that maybe something similar could be done with Storm Shadow, but I have no idea if that makes any sense or not.

If the US isn't giving ATACMS, and if the UK is willing to give Storm Shadow, then I think that Storm Shadow is the weapon that destroys Kerch and enables Ukrainian victory in the South.

And that means that Ukraine needs a plane that can fire this missile. I do know that it can be fired from a Tornado, Mirage 2000D, and Eurofighter. Tornados are too old, and the Mirage makes more sense for Ukraine than the Eurofighter, so it makes sense for France to give Ukraine Mirage 2000D jets.

Again, from what I read (I'm no expert on any of this), Britain and France are already working on a replacement for the SCALP/Storm Shadow. The main reason (from the UK perspective) is that Storm Shadow cannot be fired from F-35s, which means that the Royal Navy currently lacks some of the long-distance power it needs.

TLDR: even if the F-16 makes the most sense for Ukraine in the long term, the Mirage 2000D might be the plane that enables Ukraine to win the war.

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Keep in mind, the Ukrainian Army was, in fact, shelling civilian areas along the Line of Contact that were occupied by other Ukrainians.

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I mean that's just deliberately misleading and I say that as someone who used to like Ron Paul. I'll wait till he starts ta taing the Russians and Ukrainians for shelling civilian areas along the line of contact in Bakhmut or Kherson or any other of the numerous cities along the front. It's an active war and if you chose to stay you have to realize you might get caught up in the fighting.

Just for clarification, a shelling along the front line to me is way different than a missle strike at a city 100s of miles from the front. Those shouldn't hit civilian targets, but shelling along the active line of engagement it will happen

With the announcement that Wagner will no longer be recruiting prisoners (it's likely that no more were signing up anyway), Girkin gloomily acknowledges the loss of power that human waves of prisoners previously provided: