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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:11 am to
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Exactly. The only thing holding up America at this point is the petrodollar. If we lose that, we basically end up like 90's Russia.


wait. i think i’m missing some context, plus I’m admittedly woefully ignorant on the subject. You’re saying the removal of Russia from SWIFT would be the equivalent to the petrodollar no longer propping up USD?
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:11 am to
Sounds like Germany needs to find the keys to those decommissioned nuclear power plants
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:12 am to
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Excuse me what?

I think Germany can veto movement of weapons it helped secure. There was a post earlier about this.

They're not vetoing these countries moving arms into Ukraine
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:12 am to
Not to mention Russia has waged a destabilization and misinformation campaign in pro-Russian regions that made life WORSE for its "people."

Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:13 am to
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But, at some point, they may have to pick a side. Maybe Germany will finally pick a side where they actually come out looking decent in the end for once.

As Dante said, “The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:13 am to
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And has had a dozen addresses in that time. Unemployed constantly. Jailed. You name it. And the crazy part is he's the one who exposes it all. Self-ownage.

I follow his mom on Twitter, too
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478428 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:14 am to
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If it even starts to look like Putin is ready to go nuclear, China will actually be the first country to bodybag him in the Ural Mountains.

They haven't waited this long to emerge on the world stage to watch a senile nutjob end civilization.

Yeah people overrate China and Russia's relationship.

China is not going to let Russia destroy itself
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:14 am to
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wait. i think i’m missing some context, plus I’m admittedly woefully ignorant on the subject. You’re saying the removal of Russia from SWIFT would be the equivalent to the petrodollar no longer propping up USD?

No, if we cut them off from SWIFT, it could cause an international movement to move away from the dollar as an international currency. If that happens, the dollar essentially tanks and we're all eating rice and beans.
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:15 am to
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As Dante said, “The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”


There shouldn’t be any American soldiers killed in Ukraine. Providing weapons, training, etc would be the route to go and not remain neutral
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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I follow his mom on Twitter, too


Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40199 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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If that happens, the dollar essentially tanks and we're all eating rice and beans.
not if you have a sweet monkey NFT
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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Yeah people overrate China and Russia's relationship.

It hasn't historically been great, but we're pushing them to a stronger alliance everyday.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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They don't pull their weight in defense (IMO)

Oh they definitely do not. Plenty of pathetic stories about how under equipped their soldiers are. They do the bare minimum when it comes to their military. The British and French could do more too but at least they seem to somewhat try. Some European leader they are

Also from what I’ve seen from some Germans, joining the military isn’t seen as a very good thing. There’s still a lot of carried over negative attitudes from the end of WWII.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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not if you have a sweet monkey NFT
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:17 am to
[CNN] Heaviest fighting in Ukraine is "in and around Kharkiv," senior US defense official says

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The heaviest fighting in Ukraine is “in and around Kharkiv,” a senior US defense official said Saturday.

The official said the US saw “stiff resistance on the northern advance towards Kyiv,” as well. “But the heaviest fighting we still assess is in and around Kharkiv,” the official added.

Russian forces are facing the resistance to their invasion in the northern part of Ukraine along two axes, the official said: “down towards Kyiv and generally from Belgorod towards Khakriv.”

Russian forces are facing “less resistance in the south,” the official added.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
60256 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:17 am to
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Russia says it will launch offensive on all fronts in Ukraine.

Igor Konashenkov, a spokesman for Russia’s defense ministry, said that the order to start the offensive followed Ukraine’s alleged refusal to engage in peace talks, which the Ukrainian authorities have denied.


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Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:17 am to
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If the people of Ukraine truly thought that their government was illegitimate, do you think that you would see the domestic response on the ground of this conflict that we are seeing? It's clear that Russia thought that the Ukrainian people would not resist an overthrow of a government that Russia perceived his illegitimate, but the actual actions show that they may have quite a bit more support for this government which makes it legitimate



To be fair, half this country thinks our own govt is illegitimate, if Mexico invaded the people who think our own govt is illegitimate would be on the front lines fighting the Mexicans while the Biden supporters would be whining about the Mexicans being poor and we should just welcome them to a better life.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478428 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:18 am to
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it could cause an international movement to move away from the dollar as an international currency.

I don't think Russia, China, and Iran would be enough.

Their issue also would be a currency to replace the USD, b/c none of the 3 currently have that. China has intentionally deflated its currency to the point where it's unstable, and Russia has accomplished this negligently. Nobody is going to trade in whatever the frick Iran uses, for obvious reasons.

The Euro failed to overtake the USD, which is a lesson in any future competitor.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 10:19 am
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:18 am to
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No, if we cut them off from SWIFT, it could cause an international movement to move away from the dollar as an international currency. If that happens, the dollar essentially tanks and we're all eating rice and beans.


The rest of the world would not move from the USD and insert the currency favored by the country, and allies of, that started all of this.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:18 am to
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BREAKING: Ukrainians are taking down street signs to confuse Russian troops. The state road-signs agency changed one sign to read "go frick yourselves" on all directions.


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