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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:08 am to StormyMcMan
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:08 am to StormyMcMan
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Sure there is. They'll keep saying that Russia is keeping the gloves on, are being super cautious to minimize civilian and military casualties (why the advance is slow), and that the sanctions aren't working because reasons.
And if you point out any fallacy of their reasoning you are just an idiot believing Ukrainian/Western propaganda and they don't have any counterpoints, or if they do it's straight Russian propaganda or that Russia could just walk over Ukraine tomorrow if they took the gloves off.
You left out the part about the Nazis.
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:14 am to StormyMcMan
Armed Forces of Ukraine refute Russian fake news about the destruction of HIMARS rocket systems
Wednesday, 6 July 2022, 15:37
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have rejected fake Russian propaganda about the destruction of HIMARS rocket systems by the invaders.
Source: Press service of the Joint Forces Task Force
Quote: Russian propagandists are actively spreading false reports about the alleged destruction of a US HIMARS artillery system.
We emphasise that this announcement does not correspond to reality and is nothing but a fake.
The HIMARS rocket systems provided by American partners are constantly inflicting a crushing blow on the strategically important points of Russian occupying forces, which is leading to huge losses among the equipment, personnel and support of the occupation forces.
"Trust only verified sources and believe in the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
Ukrayinska Pravda.
Wednesday, 6 July 2022, 15:37
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have rejected fake Russian propaganda about the destruction of HIMARS rocket systems by the invaders.
Source: Press service of the Joint Forces Task Force
Quote: Russian propagandists are actively spreading false reports about the alleged destruction of a US HIMARS artillery system.
We emphasise that this announcement does not correspond to reality and is nothing but a fake.
The HIMARS rocket systems provided by American partners are constantly inflicting a crushing blow on the strategically important points of Russian occupying forces, which is leading to huge losses among the equipment, personnel and support of the occupation forces.
"Trust only verified sources and believe in the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
Ukrayinska Pravda.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 11:17 am
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:14 am to doubleb
And the part where OML shrieks about globalists before throwing out a non sequitur gif of a stripper throwing money
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:16 am to LSUPilot07
I don't know about Russia's QA/QC for artillery tube steel but if anything like for civilian use, it might be good for no more than 1000 rounds before the barrel splits like in an Elmer Fudd cartoon
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:20 am to cypher
quote:Common sense would tell you those HIMARS units would be easily taken out due to the high visibility of them. So I would tend to believe they were taken out. Russia has satellites, high altitude spy planes and drones too.
Armed Forces of Ukraine refute Russian fake news about the destruction of HIMARS rocket systems
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:53 am to StormyMcMan
They know they won’t get shelled at an active nuclear power plant because unlike the Russians the Ukrainians are like the rest of the world and don’t want a global disaster like Chernobyl was about to be when it happened. But it disgusts me that their soldiers would hold the plant workers hostage to get whatever their families have in ransom which probably isn’t much. Yet they are the benevolent rescuers of Ukraine. What a load of horseshite.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:04 pm to LSUPilot07
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That’s typical Russian doctrine. Shell the land they want to concur until there’s nothing left, send in their cannon fodder infantry to get destroyed then call that victory.
Add something else to the Russian MO:
When they shell a city to rubble it lets them ease up on the ROE. When a city is intact even the Russians avoid shooting maw maw and the kids. Once the city is rubble they will then "assume" everyone remaining is a combatant.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:04 pm to CitizenK
Their artillery units were inaccurate on the best of days much less if they are firing 50,000 rounds a day. Hopefully they blow up and kill the soldiers manning the battery.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:09 pm to Chief One Word
Lot of good those spy planes and satellites did trying to take Hostomel airport and Kyiv. Hard to hit a moving target and they are running low on precision guided weapons. Hence them using old Soviet missiles the size of a dump truck to take out civilian apartment buildings and shopping malls. Their regular artillery can’t reach them either neither can their GRADs.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:22 pm to LSUPilot07
Is anyone more up to speed on British politics, particularly what’s going on with Boris Johnson? Seeing allegations of sexual assault, bunch of ministers resigning citing corruption etc. He’s under a full court press to resign.
UK has been the biggest partner to us in helping Ukraine. Im not familiar with whatever scandal this is nor who a potential successor could be. Just curious if this potential successor is inclined to continue to engage or remove Britain from the effort. Could be an important change outside of Ukraine.
UK has been the biggest partner to us in helping Ukraine. Im not familiar with whatever scandal this is nor who a potential successor could be. Just curious if this potential successor is inclined to continue to engage or remove Britain from the effort. Could be an important change outside of Ukraine.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:47 pm to DabosDynasty
The Tories are solidly behind supporting Ukraine and anybody who would possibly replace Johnson will stay the course (though they may not flog the issue as Johnson has as he's been fighting scandals).
Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:57 pm to TigerDoc
Thank you
Posted on 7/6/22 at 1:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
Been watching YT videos of military leaders from Europe and Australia in particular. They say Russia will take the provinces they are fighting in and the Ukrainians will never move them out. One Australian general said both armies will be exhausted and that the Russians holding these lands will be their bookend in the negotiation. It was also mentioned that there was much hype about the Ukrainians prevailing against the Russians early on but that talk is long gone. It will be up to the Ukrainians to finally recognize when it is in their interest to negotiate. No roses in this scenario.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 2:14 pm to WeeWee
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The Russian ppl praise Putin because it’s a crime not to. Just last week a college student was sentenced to 7 years in prison with hard labor for criticizing Putin.
"You think our country's so innocent?"
There are over 3 dozen US Citizens languishing in Beltway prisons (some in solitary confinement) for protesting the 2020 elections. Most committed no violent crimes and most have not had formal hearings 18 months after their "transgressions".
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/6/22 at 2:37 pm to SirWinston
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for protesting the 2020 elections
Posted on 7/6/22 at 2:59 pm to StormyMcMan
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1/3?? Mass protests and clashes with the police began in Macedonia over disagreement with Bulgaria's concessions for EU membership, local media reported. LINK
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2/3 Macedonia is required to recognize the Bulgarian minority in the Constitution and agree that the Macedonian language is a dialect of Bulgarian, as well as to amend the official version of the country's history.
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3/3 And only after that Bulgaria will unblock Macedonia's accession negotiations with the EU. However, the protesters are not willing to sacrifice national interests for the sake of the EU.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:12 pm to StormyMcMan
Their media has them believing that everyone in the USA is starving from famine and freezing without heat due everything was supplied by Russia exports.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:25 pm to SirWinston
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There are over 3 dozen US Citizens languishing in Beltway prisons (some in solitary confinement) for protesting the 2020 elections. Most committed no violent crimes and most have not had formal hearings 18 months after their "transgressions".
This is one of the shittiest claims you’ve made in this thread. Your link showing President Trump saying, “You think our country’s so innocent?” is not support for your shittiness.
Dude, go take a huge dump. You’re so full of shite that turds are pressing up against your brain.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:32 pm to CitizenK
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Their media has them believing that everyone in the USA is starving from famine and freezing without heat due everything was supplied by Russia exports
I watch a YouTube channel called 1420 and the narrator was asking Russian civilians what they thought the war in Ukraine was doing to Americans. One guy actually said that we are so dependent on Russia for food and fuel that we are now starving and don’t have heat because Russia has cut us off. In July. LOL
Dumb Russians will believe whatever they’re told. They don’t have any other choice.
Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:50 pm to StormyMcMan
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1/3?? Mass protests and clashes with the police began in Macedonia over disagreement with Bulgaria's concessions for EU membership, local media reported. LINK
quote: 2/3 Macedonia is required to recognize the Bulgarian minority in the Constitution and agree that the Macedonian language is a dialect of Bulgarian, as well as to amend the official version of the country's history.
quote: 3/3 And only after that Bulgaria will unblock Macedonia's accession negotiations with the EU. However, the protesters are not willing to sacrifice national interests for the sake of the EU.
Not well versed in the dynamics here but my two thoughts are:
1. Historical European division seems to be rising under stress which is generally not ideal
2. Macedonia has no cards to play
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