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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:46 am to
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The occupiers have presented no evidence and no details.


Their propaganda requires no evidence in Russia. Accept it or it’s the gulag for you. Simple rule of tyranny.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:50 am to
A few war updates beyond Ukraine.

Maybe related or maybe not:
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In #Kazakhstan, an explosion occurred at the country's largest oil and gas field Tengiz

Two workers were killed and three others were injured. LINK


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Russian court suspended work of Caspian Pipeline Consortium for 30 days, that used for oil supplies to EU. The court cites non-compliance with environmental requirements as the reason.

CPC's problems began after Kazakhstan's public refusal to recognize so-called "DPR" and "LPR".
LINK


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#Polish Sejm deputy
@RTyszkiewicz
reports that a grave of Polish soldiers of the Home Army in the village of Mikulishki (#Hrodna region), #Belarus had been razed to the ground.

He called the incident "a barbaric act of state vandalism". LINK


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The first group of Ukrainian recruits arrived in Great Britain for training. #London has promised to train up to 10,000 #Ukrainian recruits. The first group will undergo a young fighter course with soldiers of the 11th Auxiliary Brigade of the #British Security Forces. LINK


This one is in Ukraine, but involves other nations
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The self-proclaimed "#Donetsk People's Republic" has seized two foreign vessels, the Liberian Smarta Shipping and the Panamanian Blue Star, in occupied #Mariupol.

The militants said that the vessels had been "nationalized". LINK
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16210 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:52 am to
There is a north south highway running along a north south ridge just to the east of Sloviansk for miles. That seems likely as the defensive position as troops make a fighting retreat, degrading advancing Russian forces while doing so.

England performed similar which Japan's attack on Imphal, India in 1944 thus defeating Japan before advancing eastward into Burma. As Japan advanced so did the effectiveness of its forces decline.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:56 am to
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Details: The occupiers have presented no evidence and no details. Ukraine has not yet commented on this claim


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The Armed Forces of Ukraine have denied the fake Russian propaganda about the destruction of HIMARS rocket systems by the Russians, - the press service of the Joint Forces group reports.


LINK

So who knows

ETA: This is the proof from Russia. Looks pretty thin at best

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The Russian MoD "proof" of two HIMARS launchers destroyed is pretty hilarious

LINK
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:57 am to
I love how WW2 represents every war
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38222 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:00 am to
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Who gives a frick we have tons of them and can send them a bunch more, and weapon systems the Russians can’t even dream of, but will require our assistance to operate. (Military Contractors)

We should just send them about 30 midrange tactical Nukes and a few dozen neutron bombs (yes we made them after all) and and this bullshite. And send about 100 full range to Taiwan too. Send the message you will all die a horrible death first mfers.



why? Im about as anti russian as anyone in this thread....but why would we want to do that? The ukraines are the last people we could trust in this fight.

i mean its essentially bad guys invaded by other bad guys. both countries are run by pieces of shite.

right now, other than goods pricing, the war has very little effect on the average american......arm ukraine with nukes and that changes.

also as much as i want Ukraine to win, frick that 750billion dollar reconstruction plan. We arent paying for that shite.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:01 am to
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Now OML is going to dominate the thread another day with hysteria.


Yes. That will encourage/create at least 100 more posts of drama queen.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:02 am to
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#Polish Sejm deputy @RTyszkiewicz reports that a grave of Polish soldiers of the Home Army in the village of Mikulishki (#Hrodna region), #Belarus had been razed to the ground. He called the incident "a barbaric act of state vandalism".


They are certainly doing their best to poke Poland over and over when you combine Russian and Belarusian activity.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:09 am to
North Vietnam did this to graves of S. Vietnamese soldiers shortly after the war. They flattened entire cemeteries with ARVN soldiers with bulldozers. Erased all traces of the graves.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16210 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:11 am to
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Russian court suspended work of Caspian Pipeline Consortium for 30 days, that used for oil supplies to EU. The court cites non-compliance with environmental requirements as the reason.


IMO, this is more about Kazakhstan's president basically biitch slapping Putin at a recent conference than against Europe. That oil also goes to India, not so much the USA from the pipeline terminal.

The pipeline is partially owned by Chevron and XOM to transport their crude oil to a Russian terminal on the Black Sea. The only alternative is to ship via pipeline to China. The chemistry of the oil is good for refineries as is, but is blended with Urals crude at the terminal before being loaded aboard ship at offshore mooring buoys.

Interesting that a client is about to build a refinery for Kazakhstan, which has been in the works for 5 years. Made in the USA in modules all except field erected storage tanks.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 8:14 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:43 am to
Well I guess NATO isn't a problem anymore? But it is? I can't keep Russia's NATO reasoning straight anymore.

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WATCH: On Russian State TV, President Putin (@KremlinRussia_E) stated that Sweden and Finland are free to join NATO because their circumstances differ from Ukraine's.

LINK

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"The accession of Sweden and Finland to NATO will narrow the opportunity for a peaceful dialogue in the Baltic region, will complicate the situation there," - said the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Alexey Zaitsev.
LINK


Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16210 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:47 am to
Yes and no, the Russians are using 10X the ammo that Ukraine is.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:11 am to
I heard a British guy say yesterday that Russia was firing up to 20,000 artillery shells per day. Is that credible or bull?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8686 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 9:50 am to
Yeah that’s bullshite if that is their proof. It looks like someone lit a firework not destroyed a missile launcher. The Russians are just being Russians. Lying is second nature to them. On that note though we should be giving them the long range missiles so they can stay far out of range of anything Russia has. They are being smart only using them at night though. They can fire and haul arse in no time at all.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16210 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:06 am to
Ukraine has stated that 10X the rounds fired from artillery by Russians. Firing that heavily is going to burn through some tubes. Seems to me that they will need to replace those howitzers soon, but looking for quick results. I think that the M777's are good for about 1500 or 2000 rounds each before tube needs replacement.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:14 am to
Estimates range between 50k to 80k shells a day.

IIRC, the Ukrainians have said 60k.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8686 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:31 am to
LINK

Disgusting. Yet you defend these people and call yourself American.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 10:32 am
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8686 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:34 am to
That’s typical Russian doctrine. Shell the land they want to concur until there’s nothing left, send in their cannon fodder infantry to get destroyed then call that victory. They are running low on ammunition though if they are having to look to Belarus for more and there’s nothing Lima or Winston or Stidham can do to argue that point. If they had enough reserves of their own they wouldn’t be asking Belarus.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 10:58 am to
They did the same thing at Chernobyl because it makes it much more difficult to try and take back. One positive for the Russians this time though, their troops won't be able to dig in radioactive soil.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 11:02 am to
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there’s nothing Lima or Winston or Stidham


Sure there is. They'll keep saying that Russia is keeping the gloves on, are being super cautious to minimize civilian and military casualties (why the advance is slow), and that the sanctions aren't working because reasons.

And if you point out any fallacy of their reasoning you are just an idiot believing Ukrainian/Western propaganda and they don't have any counterpoints, or if they do it's straight Russian propaganda or that Russia could just walk over Ukraine tomorrow if they took the gloves off.
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