re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

First off Russia won’t take all of Ukraine if they can’t even take the Donbas where they have the most local support in the country. Theo won’t get to Odessa either and in the off chance they did they would lose 100,000 troops and possibly 5,000 armored vehicles in doing so. Ukraine as the rest of the world know how important that port is so they will fight to the bitter end to keep it and then that’s where you start getting other countries involved. NATO won’t see that port go down I have a feeling and will send a fleet to push out the Russian navy which they will do because their navy is aging and isn’t a match for Britain or our navy for instance. If they were to actually somehow look to be taking the entire country which will never happen but IF then what do you think Poland, a member of NATO, is going to do? Just sit back and welcome Russia as their new neighbor? Not a chance. If I were NATO I would come together and pool another package of maybe 500 howitzers and 200 more main battle tanks and several dozen more rocket systems with enough ammo for about 90 days and make the Russians eat lead the next 3 months and then revaluate the situation. With the weapons and ammo to go head to head with Russia for the rest of the summer they might be down to breaking out the T-34s out of the museums to fight with. I do t think Russia has 3 months of hard fighting and dying at the rate they are losing men and most importantly machines. Eventually they will have to stop and negotiate and of course they will call that a win but the world will know it will be an embarrassing loss that the mighty Russian army couldn’t take a much smaller country.

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First off Russia won’t take all of Ukraine if they can’t even take the Donbas where they have the most local support in the country. Theo won’t get to Odessa either and in the off chance they did they would lose 100,000 troops and possibly 5,000 armored vehicles in doing so. Ukraine as the rest of the world know how important that port is so they will fight to the bitter end to keep it and then that’s where you start getting other countries involved. NATO won’t see that port go down I have a feeling and will send a fleet to push out the Russian navy which they will do because their navy is aging and isn’t a match for Britain or our navy for instance. If they were to actually somehow look to be taking the entire country which will never happen but IF then what do you think Poland, a member of NATO, is going to do? Just sit back and welcome Russia as their new neighbor? Not a chance. If I were NATO I would come together and pool another package of maybe 500 howitzers and 200 more main battle tanks and several dozen more rocket systems with enough ammo for about 90 days and make the Russians eat lead the next 3 months and then revaluate the situation. With the weapons and ammo to go head to head with Russia for the rest of the summer they might be down to breaking out the T-34s out of the museums to fight with. I do t think Russia has 3 months of hard fighting and dying at the rate they are losing men and most importantly machines. Eventually they will have to stop and negotiate and of course they will call that a win but the world will know it will be an embarrassing loss that the mighty Russian army couldn’t take a much smaller country.

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i actually agree with all of this.

but in the future...use that enter button and create paragraphs, shite is hard to read

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. They will hammer any bordering country they perceive a threat to whatever

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If we are involved, probably so. That's one of the reasons they invaded Ukraine.

We frick up everything we touch of late. This is just geopolitical wrangling that we are neck deep in.

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If I were NATO I would come together and pool another package of maybe 500 howitzers and 200 more main battle tanks and several dozen more rocket systems with enough ammo for about 90 days

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Here is what Ukraine (Podoliak) says it needs for parity but no doubt would be happy to receive half of it.

Being straightforward – to end the war we need heavy weapons parity:

1000 howitzers caliber 155 mm;
300 MLRS;
500 tanks;
2000 armored vehicles;
1000 drones

The extent to which the request will be fulfilled may become clearer on Wednesday June 15 when the Ukraine Defense Contact Group meets.

What do you still not get about these people are fighting for their homes and families by an invading piece of shite? They will sacrifice as needed to bleed the Russians white. It’s hilarious that you still think this is what Russia winning looks like. They should have been able to take the entire country in a month max but everything about Russia is corrupt and incompetent.

I hope one of the takeaways from this war for the US and NATO is that the volume of ammunition consumed daily requires ample stores.

Modern weapon systems have long replenishment timelines, if current manufacturing capacity can’t replenish stocks fast enough to keep up with a war, you have to have a bigger stockpile so you can last long enough to bring additional manufacturing capacity online.

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I hope one of the takeaways from this war for the US and NATO is that the volume of ammunition consumed daily requires ample stores.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the US wouldn’t really need all of this howitzer and similar ammo would we? So much of our fighting would be done from the air and from ships, etc.

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No shite, the constant stream of shite posting is tiresome. I still am following the war closely, but what’s the point of posting about it here. I love TD, but it seriously needs some moderation.

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It just needs people to STOP RESPONDING to the shite-posters. They are flinging shite to derail the conversation. Why do people wallow in it and help them spread it?

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Bottom line is it's coming from American tax payers. Let's take care of Americans first before giving out money to others.

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In an ideal world I would agree with you, but we don’t live in an ideal world. $40,000,000,000 would have built a border wall. However, our politicians are not going to build a border wall while Biden is in office. They are also not going to screw over the taxpayers and keep or save the money. It’s better that they use the money to kill neo Soviet commies than spend it promoting driving electric cars while performing oral sex on individuals with gender identity disorder awareness month.

Starting to see posts on the twatter that Ukrainian forces have advanced to within 10 km of Kherson. Can’t confirm anything yet, but the rumors of the Russians fleeing from Kharkiv and the Ukrainian counterattack in Severodonetsk started the same way. However, they are also twatter rumors so take with large grain of salt.