re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

He/she is a palmetto bug aka large cockroach

It might be a push, but this way we keep all of our best equipment and personnel safe.

Fog of war for the most part.

I've found that it is best to wait a few days before declaring anything for certain at this point.

We have heard that Ukraine is collapsing in the Severodonetsk pocket for weeks now...hasn't happened yet.

Twitter is a great source for breaking info and there are a lot of good sources on it. Some of them have a Russian bias, some are Ukraine biased and some are fairly neutral. I try to check them all before forming an opinion.

ISW likewise, usually at least 24 hrs late

Approved and spent are two different things

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Twitter is a great source for breaking info

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Sheesh now I understand why the discrepancies.

Fierce urban combat continues in Sievierodonetsk – the Ministry of Defense

The invaders are suffering heavy losses in the infantry units of Rosgvardiya and the Russian Armed Forces. They are advancing only thanks to their assault aircraft. The enemy is also actively using artillery and MLRS.

“Ukraine’s Armed Forces are holding off the Russian offensive trying to surround our troops in Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk and block logistics routes from Bakhmut,” Motuzianyk said.

In the Sloviansk direction, the Ukrainian Armed Forces successfully held off the enemy’s offensive near the villages of Dolyna and Bohorodychne.

more detailed maps within...

Defense industry of Ukraine

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Approved and spent are two different things

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So when you stated “Isn't $40 billion a lot less than if we were directly involved? Sure seems that way to me.” Was the $40 billion you stated approved or actually spent??? Or did that not matter then…


For US that amount is only to last until or through September. Don’t know about the rest of the world’s timeframes.

I think that what what rest of world has pledged or approved is also different from spent as well until more time passes. They may have actually spent less of % of pledged than US.

We are 1.5 to a little over 2 times more than combined total of rest of the globe. If you include aid not directly going to Ukraine but to surrounding NATO countries and Ukrainian refugees because of conflict it may be higher.

Unless you believe Ukraine is already a lost cause or will be before May bill spent sometime in September approved versus spent is just arguing semantics.

Just based on Kiel Institute

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The U.S. has pledged far more aid to Ukraine than any other country in the world — even before Biden passed a $40 billion aid bill…

The U.S. has pledged far more aid to Ukraine than any one country has since Russia’s invasion began earlier this year, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy. Between Jan. 24 and May 10, the U.S. pledged about $42.95 billion (the equivalent of 40 billion euros) while all other countries pledged a combined $25.3 billion (23.6 billion euros), the Kiel Institute explained in a working paper.

…Although President Joe Biden didn’t sign the Additional Ukraine Supplemental Appropriations Act into law until May 21, the Kiel Institute included the aid bill in its calculations under the assumption it would become law. The law provides for $40.1 billion in aid “for activities to respond to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.” The Kiel Institute estimated about $23.11 billion of that $40.1 billion will go directly to Ukraine — the rest of that sum will help support American troops in the region, refugees outside of Ukraine and neighboring countries.

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https://www.krem.com/article/news/verify/world-verify/ukraine-verify/us-has-pledged-most-aid-to-ukraine-of-any-country-in-world/

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However, the one area in which it is the absolute master is logistics and supply.

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Truth. On the other hand, the Germans were not good at logistics in WWII. You might say they were bad.

Is everything promised already there?