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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/5/22 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 12:57 pm to
I'm seeing a lot of posts indicating that the Ukrainians are close to fully retaking Severodonetsk.

If Russians can't push them back out quickly, that's a MAJOR defeat. They have put everything they have into trying to capture Severodnetsk, if they don't succeed, what does that say?

More news will be forthcoming, interested to see where this is in a couple of days.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1533499778679595012
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Severodonetsk is reportedly 80 percent liberated.

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Precision artillery fire is giving Russians real problems

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Chechen tiktokers reportedly took big losses in Severodonetsk. Expect a couple less TikToks a day!


Pretty good footage of a Russian KA-52 getting taken out today
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1533391518970662912
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#Ukraine: Clearer footage just released by the Ukrainian 128th Mountain Assault Brigade shows what was shot down was a Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter- they claim that a MANPADS was used.

Given the low altitude & very rapid explosion, we can state that both the crew were killed.

This post was edited on 6/5/22 at 1:04 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 12:58 pm to
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Hopefully we provided the PID and targeting particulars.


I don't know...Putin has threatened to start targeting military targets in Ukraine if we get too involved
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 1:01 pm to
This post was edited on 6/5/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 1:05 pm to
Comedy brilliance
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38247 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 1:35 pm to
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quote: Maj-Gen Roman Kutuzov, commander of Russia's 5th Combined Arms Army, was reportedly killed in Luhansk Oblast, according to LDNR sources - LINK LINK


You hate to see it.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 1:42 pm to
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Maj-Gen Roman Kutuzov, commander of Russia's 5th Combined Arms Army, was reportedly killed in Luhansk Oblast, according to LDNR sources - LINK LINK

Unreal. How many generals is that now?
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8190 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 1:44 pm to
13 maybe 15...I lost count
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5759 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 2:35 pm to
eleven (3 are disputed) according to wikipedia.

all the details within....

Wikipedia list of dead Russian Generals
This post was edited on 6/5/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 2:47 pm to
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The implications are insane, so let’s say an army was told to attempt a river crossing and it failed, then a second and third command given to attempt the crossing again and again with no regard for men and materials losses but the 2nd and 3rd commands were not actually given by that 1st army command but by the other opposing side. Fog of war on steroids.
Reminds one of 1/9/12.


Shut your whore mouth. That date is to never be mentioned again!
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5996 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 2:51 pm to
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it appears increasingly clear from Russian media that the Russian population are aware the conflict is not going well for them. That seems to me that it could cut two ways, they could scream for peace, or that could push them towards total war and levee en masse. Some of the Russian state media are clearly pushing for an expansion of the conflict.


This conflict is a really good illustration of how Golda Meir (allegedly) distilled the Israeli/Arab conflict:

“If the Arabs lay down their weapons there will be peace. If Israel lays down its weapons there will be a massacre.”

If Russia lays down its weapons this war ends and no Russian civilians die and. I Russian land destroyed. If Ukraine lays down its weapons there will be no Ukraine and countless Ukrainians will die and more Europeans will be on deck.

That’s the element that doesn’t seem to register with the pro-Russia posters or at least the ones that seem to view both sides (and nato) as equally culpable here. Russia needs thousands and maybe millions of civilians to die to achieve its goals - whatever those may be today. Ukraine needs zero Russian civilians to die to achieve its goal.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 4:19 pm to
More discussion, this time from Seperatist troops about the Russians using them for cannon fodder.

https://twitter.com/mdmitri91/status/1533418699637637120
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The LPR blogger who told the story of the Russian 35th army a few days ago, shared today some more interesting details about the mobilisation process in Donbas, going over the terrible preparation of the Russian airforce along the way…






Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36292 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 4:20 pm to
This war is still going on?
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 4:29 pm to
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This war is still going on?


No, the ukies took Moscow last night
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
8190 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 4:29 pm to
Serverodonetsk Updated Maps
https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1533522639398092802
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Severodonetsk Frontline-Ukrainian forces have recaptured 80 percent of the city pushing Russians into a pocket in the north east(Previous Positions). Heavy fighting is happening around the Severodonetsk Bus Station and Fedorenka Street.


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Key:
Red Circles=Russian strongpoint
Yellow Circles=Contested areas where fighting is happening.
Blue Area: Liberated territory

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Russians have been pushed out of many areas, however these areas remain as no mans land or "grey zones", due to them being heavily shelled by either side. The pocket that Russian forces remain in, is reportedly heavily defended and is "Hard to storm".


Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5759 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 4:41 pm to
Russia is deliberately destroying everything Ukrainian

Kyiv Post
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 4:42 pm to




Former French ambassador to the UN tried to explain their lack of effort in support of Ukraine by saying were in the way providing aid and gets owned. Typical French
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/5/22 at 4:43 pm to
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this time from Seperatist troops about the Russians using them for cannon fodder.


Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5996 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Former French ambassador to the UN tried to explain their lack of effort in support of Ukraine by saying were in the way providing aid and gets owned. Typical French


It is amazing. With the UK out of the EU this is the the moment for the Eurocentric French and Germans to assert themselves and Europe as a unified force not to be fricked with.

Instead it’s the US and UK once again largely holding the line for the western world order. I guess no has yet translated “The White Man’s Burden” into French or German.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42784 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 5:23 pm to
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No, the ukies took Moscow last night



Wrong, the shooting in Moscow was from some upset Ruskies who were after Putin.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 5:23 pm to
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With the UK out of the EU this is the the moment for the Eurocentric French and Germans to assert themselves and Europe as a unified force not to be fricked with.


The French will always do what’s good for the French, first and foremost. They’re not walking away from their investments in Russia.
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