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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:54 am to Palmetto98
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:54 am to Palmetto98
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Traditionally it is accepted that a defending force has a 3:1 advantage over an attacker.
I get tired of this being thrown around because it only applies to localized breakthrough battles but people all over the place are trying to apply it at a strategic level. It has little to do with the ability to strategically exploit the breakthrough if achieved. It is yet another example of dumbing down modern warfare to the point everyone thinks they are an expert. Armchair generals that wouldn't know a battle drill from a Dewalt drill.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:56 am to Obtuse1
I’m done arguing with every CNN bull shvt excuse in the book. However, why didn’t Biden say he would respond with military action towards Russia, but he will with China?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:57 am to Palmetto98
quote:Or, that his own goons blew smoke up his arse and grossly over estimated his military.
Now the only explanation is that it was intimidation or Putin is dying of cancer and has gone crazy like CNN says.
That seems way more plausible than willingly killing thousands of your own men, wasting billions of dollars, and sending your military, economy, and world power status straight down the shitter for decades all to trick the Ukies into thinking they're taking Kyiv
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:00 pm to Palmetto98
all you are able to do is pull cnn out of your arse anytime people with more knowledge say things that hurt your feelings...that's not arguing, it's acting like a child.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:00 pm to Palmetto98
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I’m done arguing with every CNN bull shvt excuse in the book.
Nobody has quoted or linked in CNN in almost 100 pages. You just are ignorant and cannot accept the fact that your are getting pawned.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:05 pm to Palmetto98
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They literally have southern Ukraine and the eastern regions on full grasp. The reality of the situation is this victory from a drawn out war of attrition in Kiev and all of Ukraine was never going to happen and y’all are having an extremely hard time coming to terms with this. Russia got what it wanted plain and simple.
You are in complete denial and it's pitiful. Putin wanted the whole damn country not some of it. Kyiv was supposed to be a decapitation attack. He badly miscalculated and thought it would fall quickly. You yourself were crowing that it would be over in 48 hours. Putin/Russia does not want to be in an economy-draining attrition war in Donbas for the next 5-10 years, which is what it's facing now because the Kyiv offensive failed miserably. Stop deluding yourself.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:06 pm to Palmetto98
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I’m done arguing with every CNN bull shvt excuse in the book
Because you realize you dug a hole you can't get out of with the propaganda you swallowed?
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However, why didn’t Biden say he would respond with military action towards Russia, but he will with China?
Good question and I don't know the answer, but they did have to release a statement saying (something to the effect of anyway) we aren't deviating from our prior Taiwan policy.
I don't know enough about the Budapest Memorandum and the Taiwan Relations Act, but maybe there is something in there about why there is a different approach
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:07 pm to REG861
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You are in complete denial and it's pitiful. Putin wanted the whole damn country. Kyiv was supposed to be a decapitation attack. He badly miscalculated and thought it would fall quickly. You yourself were crowing that it would be over in 48 hours. Putin/Russia does not want to be in an economy-draining attrition war in Donbas for the next 5-10 years, which is what it's facing now because the Kyiv offensive failed miserably. Stop deluding yourself.
Thank you for proving my case on my previous post. Now, I want answers to my Biden Taiwan question please.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:10 pm to StormyMcMan
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Good question and I don't know the answer, but they did have to release a statement saying (something to the effect of anyway) we aren't deviating from our prior Taiwan policy. I don't know enough about the Budapest Memorandum and the Taiwan Relations Act, but maybe there is something in there about why there is a different approach
If Biden would’ve told Russia that it would military intervene if it invaded Ukraine, do you think the outcome would’ve been different? I understand since there’s no CNN article to answer this, this might be a tough question to answer.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:12 pm to Palmetto98
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:13 pm to Palmetto98
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If Biden would’ve told Russia that it would military intervene if it invaded Ukraine, do you think the outcome would’ve been different? I understand since there’s no CNN article to answer this, this might be a tough question to answer.
Since there is no RT you might have a hard time too
Honestly, no. I think he would have thought we were bluffing and would have tried to call a bluff like he did with sanctions.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:15 pm to Obtuse1
quote:
Traditionally it is accepted that a defending force has a 3:1 advantage over an attacker.
I get tired of this being thrown around
As a non-armchair general who didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, That “3-1” statement has seemed too generalized to me because of the extensive use of high tech air attacks and unmanned systems. Maybe I’m missing something but the 3-1 seems to suggest a lot of live people on the battlefield as opposed to long distance manned and unmanned air and precision ground weapons.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:17 pm to StormyMcMan
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Since there is no RT you might have a hard time too Honestly, no. I think he would have thought we were bluffing and would have tried to call a bluff like he did with sanctions.
Pointless Sanctions and being military threatened by a force 3 times your strength aren’t accurate comparisons amigo.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:18 pm to StormyMcMan
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Good question and I don't know the answer, but they did have to release a statement saying (something to the effect of anyway) we aren't deviating from our prior Taiwan policy
Wonder if we are going to see the consequences of his statement
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:20 pm to TBoy
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As a non-armchair general who didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, That “3-1” statement has seemed too generalized to me because of the extensive use of high tech air attacks and unmanned systems. Maybe I’m missing something but the 3-1 seems to suggest a lot of live people on the battlefield as opposed to long distance manned and unmanned air and precision ground weapons.
Call it what you want, but sieging a city with the intent on capturing and holding being outnumbered 3-1 is completely ludicrous regardless.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:21 pm to REG861
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He badly miscalculated and thought it would fall quickly.
To be fair, everyone thought that. Biden himself was begging for Zelenskyy to flee. Russia’s best troops were literally on the very outskirts of Kyiv at one point.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:25 pm to Stidham8
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Yep. I've been trying to tell them for 2 weeks.
"bUt rUsSiA iSnT mObiLiZeD"
Let me use a football analogy.
Bama is up against Mississippi State in the second quarter 7-6. Bama drove early and fumbled inside State territory. State drove and kicked a long FG from the 34. Bama took the kink off and pushed back into State territory finally scoring a TD.
A Bama fan in the stands tells his wife not to worry, Saban hasn’t put in the first string yet even though we haven’t seen Bryce Young leave the field on offense.
Keep saying Russia isn’t trying. I’m sure all those grieving momas, wives and girl friends appreciate that.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:25 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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He badly miscalculated and thought it would fall quickly. To be fair, everyone thought that.
Except for the Ukrainians.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:29 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Russia’s best troops were literally on the very outskirts of Kyiv at one point.
No way dude. Palmetto pinky swears it was all just a feint and the "non-war" is going just swimingly for the Russians....
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