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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:44 pm to
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Another unreal video of a guy driving a car and escaping a rocket bombardment:



That’s nuts. Putin is just there keeping the peace though
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:48 pm to
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To continue my previous comments, this blows my mind too. They’re close (supposedly) on hypersonic missiles but their infantry can’t fight at night? Just weird.
Fighting at night is hard even for the well trained troops. Running around with night vision on sucks balls and takes a shite ton of practice. I doubt a bunch of 18 year old conscripts in Russia have trained much for it all.

But I’ll say this, everyone seems to be getting prematurely excited about the Ukrainian defense and the supposedly stalled Russian advance. Let’s remember that this war is only 3 days old. It took US forces 3 weeks to capture Baghdad in 2003 and we had all the cool shite anyone could dream of.

I am however encouraged by some of the reports we’re getting. Hopefully they’re true and Ukraine can hold Kiev for another week or two. I think the longer they hold out the more sympathy they’ll get from western nations. Public opinion is already shifting towards giving more military aid to Ukraine and I suspect you’ll soon see more calls for direct military action against Russian forces in Ukraine.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:48 pm to
It’s literally only been a day and y’all are looking like clowns declaring victory. Ukraine isn’t Iraq and that invasion lasted a month.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:50 pm to
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It’s literally only been a day and y’all are looking like clowns declaring victory. Ukraine isn’t Iraq and that invasion lasted a month.


Also both sides are doing propaganda. I’m going to need to see some proof that they just shot down a plane carrying 125 parachutists.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31525 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:51 pm to
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All it takes is a simple google search to find their Nazi ties. The media was all over this before the invasion. This isn’t Russian propaganda at all.



Ok I did a simple Google search and found a Jewish site that says it’s not a Nazi state.

LINK


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Let’s look beyond the flashy headlines.

Ukraine’s Jewish population ranges from 49,000 to 400,000 people. Some of Judaism’s most distinctive ideologies and traditions have their roots in the area. Their current president is Jewish, and they have had a Jewish prime minister too.

In the same breath, the community is no stranger to both historical and current persecution. Antisemitism continues to spike across the spectrum, all over the world, including in both Russia and Ukraine.

The far right is a problem in Ukraine, but the country is far from a Nazi state.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:52 pm to
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Also both sides are doing propaganda. I’m going to need to see some proof that they just shot down a plane carrying 125 parachutists.


This is what casualties involving actual countries looks like. We aren’t talking about a country against armed rebels in pajamas in Afghanistan lol.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21122 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:52 pm to
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I’m going to need to see some proof

Like that's ever stopped you
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:53 pm to
Iraq was supposedly one of the most potent armed forces on Earth - both times. They got their asses handed to them with the quickness both times. IDK WTF you're talking about. We weren't embarrassed militarily until Brandon took office and scampered out of Afghanistan.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1041 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:54 pm to
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It took US forces 3 weeks to capture Baghdad in 2003 and we had all the cool shite anyone could dream of.


Not even comparable. There were never a point in the Iraq invasion where the US suffered anything close to what the Russians have suffered so far.
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4959 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:56 pm to
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GDP in Russia is expected to reach 1709.58 USD Billion


Apple alone is almost twice the size of the Russian economy.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 5:57 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134601 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:00 pm to
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I think it’s a combination of both. It’s illogical that you have 2/3 of your army sitting on the border and not using them when you are trying to overwhelm them quickly though.

ETA: I guess Putin is trying to move fast without fricking infrastructure up so that he can use it. I think that’s why we see Russia not being super quick


I think they may have underestimated Ukrainian resolve. The question is now that pressure is mounting, will they continue their invasion or draw back? I just don’t see Putin being willing to take an L.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:03 pm to
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Ok I did a simple Google search and found a Jewish site that says it’s not a Nazi state.


There were Jews in Nazi Germany and black people living in the confederate states, idk how this debunks anything?

LINK

LINK

Here’s a link to Svoboda, a party that literally uses the infamous Wolfsangel symbol and

The famous Azov Battalion that was being praised by us until it became a risk to do so after Russia invaded.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32725 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:03 pm to
I think Putin is set on killing Zelesky, then having some BS transitional government installed that is completely controlled by the Kremlim. Putin wants to get to that point asap but would rather not have to raze a European capital.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 6:04 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:04 pm to
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I just don’t see Putin being willing to take an L.


It seems like he one on the table. Maybe Kramer was wrong.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:05 pm to
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Iraq was supposedly one of the most potent armed forces on Earth - both times. They got their asses handed to them with the quickness both times. IDK WTF you're talking about. We weren't embarrassed militarily until Brandon took office and scampered out of Afghanistan.


Iraq also supposedly had Weapons of mass destruction and got their arses beat previously in the gulf war and by Iran so yeah they were a joke buddy.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19165 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:05 pm to
I would say 1 and 2 would be justified, 3 would lead to WW3
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5904 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:06 pm to
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That shite doesn't work any more. Not even in Russia. Modern war is too costly in blood and treasure. Not even Putin can afford to throw lives and equipment away like that. Their economy struggles to produce what they do have and it will be hard to replace the losses


Maybe not in a battle against the Ukraine but if it ultimately sparks off WW3 then it will. I think China is rethinking their military might right now seeing as 99% of their weapons are Russian based with stolen US/NATO advancements. If a small, poor contry like the Ukraine can hold off THe Russian Bear, what do you think the US/NATO could do??

Everyone thinks that China wants Taiwan so bad, but ultimately they want payback at Japan. Japan was horrible to China through out history. That’s their ultimate goal.

They are seeing first hand how poorly their weapons systems will fare against the western stuff when it comes to Russia/Ukraine!!
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27420 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:09 pm to
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Everyone thinks that China wants Taiwan so bad, but ultimately they want payback at Japan. Japan was horrible to China through out history. That’s their ultimate goa


Actually most of their history China was the Dominant partner. Think big bro little bro relationship. Thing was Japan modernized and waxed China in the sino-Japanese wars and then the 1930s and wwii.

They hate each other now but it's a more recent development historically speaking
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 6:10 pm
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:11 pm to
Japan sells used panties out of vending machines and created tentacle porn - they're nuts - don't ever count those frickers out
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71121 posts
Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:13 pm to
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BREAKING: Air Force Command of the Ukraine Armed Forces claims:

- Ukrainian Su-27 shot down Russian Su-25 flying towards Vinnytsia
- Ukrainian S-300 air defences shot down a Russian Su-25 and helicopter
- Ukrainian Su-27 shot down a Russian IL-76 near Vasylkiv




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