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re: Landscapers find concrete-filled car buried for decades in yard of Silicon Valley mansion
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:20 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:20 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Very interested to see how the registered owner of the car is going to explain this one.
What is the crime committed? The only thing I could see is either
1. Violate some California Environmental law
2. Insurance scam if reported car stolen/lost
0% chance there was a human remains smell, that is just making lies to get clicks or add drama.
The South is covered in abandoned vehicles on people's land.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:33 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
If I ever killed someone and buried them in my own yard there's no way I'm ever selling that house 
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:35 pm to DarthRebel
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0% chance there was a human remains smell, that is just making lies to get clicks or add drama.
Au contraire, mon frere.
Cadaver Dogs
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Dogs are able to pick up a scent within minutes of the death or years later. In some studies, they have found 25-year-old skeletonized remains, buried in an area of 300 by 150 feet.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:50 pm to SlickRickerz
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Go explain that to skeeter pouring your slab
Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:53 pm to texn
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Isn't there lime in concrete?
You put de lime in de coconut, not in de auto in de house
You put de lime in de coconut, you drink 'em bot' togedder
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:00 pm to JudgeHolden
I going to guess that they thought over time the bags would absorb enough moisture/runoff/etc. to eventually turn to concrete.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:06 pm to SlickRickerz
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Acidic as in it will burn you. I fully understand that cement itself is extremely basic and has a high PH, but no one thinks in normal terms of a basic solution as something to break down skin, you think of that as acidic. Go explain that to skeeter pouring your slab, he’s just going to think of cement as being an acid because that’s what most people think.
or just say "caustic" or "corrosive"...
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:13 pm to SlickRickerz
quote:So will something that's caustic.
Acidic as in it will burn you
Matter of fact, cement smells like sodium hydroxide. Because, well, it's caustic.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:14 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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Cadaver dogs alerted to possible human remains, but none had been found more than 12 hours after the car was dug up
HOW DO YOU LOSE THOSE DOGS?!
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:18 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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So this body has been buried since the 90’s yet it is giving off smells human remains? I don’t know if I buy that. After 30 plus years their wouldn’t be anything but bones left.
Unless as a previous poster noted, the body parts are in the concrete which would seal in the organic matter preventing air and water from getting to it and decaying it. Perhaps the person actually fricked themselves with the method they thought would cover them.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:25 pm to Hangit
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Reminds me of that house on Sherwood Forest with the VW Beetle buried in the front yard.
We were always told it was a Cadillac.
I'm trying to remember the story. I've heard two versions:
1. The dad got mad at the daughter's bad driving, so he buried the car.
2. The husband buried the car rather that give it to his ex-wife during a divorce.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 3:14 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Cadaver dogs alerted to possible human remains, but none had been found more than 12 hours after the car was dug up
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HOW DO YOU LOSE THOSE DOGS?!
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 3:27 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
There is some more info about the previous owners from a SF Chronicle article behind a paywall: Atherton buried car: Home’s former owner has colorful history of arrests for murder, more
Article not behind paywall: Peninsula Buried Car Property's Ex-Owner Had Criminal Past: Report
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In 1999, the former owner of the property at 351 Stockbridge Ave, Johnny Bocktune Lew, was accused of trying to hire people to sink a yacht worth $1.2 million in order to cash in on the insurance. The men he hired were undercover police in a sting operation, authorities said.
Article not behind paywall: Peninsula Buried Car Property's Ex-Owner Had Criminal Past: Report
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Johnny Bocktune Lew, who owned the 351 Stockbridge Ave. property in the 1990s, had a lengthy criminal history that included a 1977 conviction on two counts of attempted murder and a murder conviction in the 1960s that was later overturned, The San Francisco Chronicle reports.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 3:54 pm to texn
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Isn't there lime in concrete?
Most DIY bag mixes do not contain lime.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:25 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Johnny Bocktune Lew, who owned the 351 Stockbridge Ave. property in the 1990s, had a lengthy criminal history that included a 1977 conviction on two counts of attempted murder and a murder conviction in the 1960s that was later overturned, The San Francisco Chronicle reports.
Damn, now it’s getting juicy.
Even if there’s not a body in the car, it’s possible that the car was buried to get rid of evidence.. which might explain why the cadaver dogs apparently gave a faint response. The concrete part is a bit puzzling. But maybe the guy had heard mob stories about bodies in cement and thought Quikrete from Home Depot would do the same thing. It would have been harder to look shite like that up in the 90’s, when the internet was still newish.
Sounds like the guy had a history of insurance fraud as well so there’s also that possible angle. But it seems like there have to be better ways to collect an insurance check than burying a car in your yard.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:25 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
I am fascinated by this story.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:27 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
The smell would be gone
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:32 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
I guess removing kneecaps isn’t enough
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:33 pm to WhiteMandingo
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The smell would be gone
Are you a cadaver dog? What qualifies you to make such a statement?
Posted on 10/21/22 at 4:38 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
I'm guessing the bags of concrete were to kind of cover his tracks: someone goes poking around the yard, runs into a layer of hardened concrete and moves on. Placing a layer of bagged concrete is easier than trying to mix and pour a concrete slab.
I think one thing we're not talking about is how difficult it would have been to excavate that much soil without someone noticing. I guess it could be done by hand, with shovels, but that's a lot of work. A mini excavator could have been used. Did he just push the car into the hole?
So many unanswered questions.
I think one thing we're not talking about is how difficult it would have been to excavate that much soil without someone noticing. I guess it could be done by hand, with shovels, but that's a lot of work. A mini excavator could have been used. Did he just push the car into the hole?
So many unanswered questions.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 4:46 pm
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