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re: La. House to vote on recreational weed today. Updated with video link

Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:16 am to
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43702 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:16 am to
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Fun fact: all cannabis deals are cash. Dispensaries can’t accept debit or credit cards because banks will not accept money from those sales because it’s not federally legal.

most colorado dispensaries will take a debit card now
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58415 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:18 am to
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I know of one representative in particular who plans to vote yes because, get a load of this, his constituents want it passed.


It will get some yes votes but just not enough to pass. Give it a couple years and it will have a real chance at passing
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32960 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:20 am to
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Fun fact: all cannabis deals are cash. Dispensaries can’t accept debit or credit cards because banks will not accept money from those sales because it’s not federally legal.

False, they accept debit cards but not credit cards.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3595 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:20 am to
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asset forfeiture Louisiana civil forfeiture law fails to protect property owners. The law requires only that the government show by a preponderance of the evidence that property is associated with criminal activity in order to forfeit it. ... Law enforcement retains 80 percent of forfeiture revenue—a large incentive to seize.


The real question is: what will be a bigger payoff for politicians: money from asset forfeiture and the prison industrial complex, or tax revenue and bribes from the recreational market.

Decisions, decisions...


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Fun fact: all cannabis deals are cash. Dispensaries can’t accept debit or credit cards because banks will not accept money from those sales because it’s not federally legal.

False, they accept debit cards but not credit cards.


Here in MA they do accept debit cards, but run it through as cash from an “ATM” with an associates fee tacked on.

The retail recreational market is “wicked” expensive here, especially after taxes. Thus the grey market thrives with much better prices and usually superior quality.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 9:25 am
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:20 am to
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Dealer has cash on them obviously, all deals are cash. Police officers making arrest take some of the cash and put it in their pockets. Police officers profit. The end


So a patrol deputy or street police officer one finds a few ounces (because they are letting them go or giving a ticket for anything less) is filing civil forfeiture paperwork and going through the process with the judge and DA's Office? I bet 99% of them have no clue how to fill out the paperwork or even know where to begin. Any civil forfeiture is through investigative units on big cases in which they have bought weed directly from the dealer and their buy money is mixed in during a search warrant or arrest. These cases are becoming more rare as these units mainly focus on Heroin and Meth. Many don't even mess with it unless it is a large sum of money so don't act like every drug arrest, cops or the departments get a cut. And like I said before, only large task forces are messing with asset forfeiture when it comes to weed but carry on with your uninformed, alarmist position.

Like I said, I'm for legalization and this won't even hurt police departments when it comes to asset forfeiture as they will just replace any sums they seize from weed dealers with sums from dudes pushing hundreds of thousands in Meth and Heroin. Your position that they are against it because they will lose a revenue stream is just laughable.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
57886 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:21 am to
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I know of one representative in particular who plans to vote yes because, get a load of this, his constituents want it passed. By a significant margin.


A politician in 2021 America actually doing what he was elected to do?

:idontbelieveyougif:
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35389 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:22 am to
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I don’t know of any downsides we have experienced.
Lack of money lining the pockets of the privatized prison system?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20390 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:24 am to
Seems like a well written, logical bill. Which means it has no chance of passing.

I saw the LA GOP tweeted for people to call their representatives and tell them to vote "no," because this bill will make it easier for kids to get their hands on weed
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:25 am to
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not looking into stuff that actually matters

That's the other rub with the Sheriff's association. They know if cannabis is legalized, they might have to start solving actual crimes.
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:25 am to
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True the La GOP has more important issues to virtue signal about like banning the approximately 5 transgender kids who want to play sports


You focus on the "5" transgender kids who want to play sports but any legislation isn't about them. It's about the hundreds of girls they will face and ultimately destroy because they have such a physical advantage.

#StopTrannyCheaters
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:26 am to
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Dispensaries can’t accept debit

They accept debit cards as long as you run it as debit.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:28 am to
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5 transgender kids who want to play sports


Choices have consequences, or at least they used to
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:31 am to
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The real question is: what will be a bigger payoff for politicians: money from asset forfeiture and the prison industrial complex, or tax revenue and bribes from the recreational market.

Decisions, decisions...

Bribes and kickbacks are usually cash or "gifts", are harder to track and are given voluntarily. This is the path of least resistance for our greedy "leaders"
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85136 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:32 am to
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Your position that they are against it because they will lose a revenue stream is just laughable.


then why are they against it?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:32 am to
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Many don't even mess with it unless it is a large sum of money so don't act like every drug arrest, cops or the departments get a cut.


Except for that wad that ends up in the officers pocket during the search warrant.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124289 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:35 am to
I would be beyond shocked if this passes the first time around.

No way the Sheriffs let this pass. Once they figure out they can get a bigger cut out of legal weed than the illegal market they will pass it though.
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:36 am to
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Sitting on the back porch with a laptop smoking a joint while enjoying the rain.


It's not The responsible people that people have issue with this it's the irresponsible people.

Jeff Gordon and Mario Andretti can operate a vehicle at 85 mph, It's that stupid 16-year-old that sees them go by and not get arrested and think well if they can drive over 85 I can too.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27731 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:36 am to
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Here in MA they do accept debit cards, but run it through as cash from an “ATM” with an associates fee tacked on.


Yes I was wrong about the debit cards. The only ones I’ve worked with and been to are cash only and I understood that to be universal, but realize that was incorrect now.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23509 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:36 am to
.... think of the children
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20390 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:47 am to
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It's not The responsible people that people have issue with this it's the irresponsible people.

Jeff Gordon and Mario Andretti can operate a vehicle at 85 mph, It's that stupid 16-year-old that sees them go by and not get arrested and think well if they can drive over 85 I can too.


1. How do we stop people from driving drunk? Alcohol is legal right now.
2. Are irresponsible people already not driving high? If they're not going to obey DUI laws, you think they're obeying cannabis laws as is?
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