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re: Kobe chopper's flight pattern was just weird and all over the place
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:31 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:31 pm to Jim Rockford
155 kts is pretty quick for a helo, we're just about to rotate in a few more kts
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:35 pm to Klark Kent
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i'm sure this is an extremely ignorant question. but if the weather was that bad why take off? why not land and wait it out? instead of circling and taking some weird flight path?
Because, in groups we talk ourselves into pushing into risky behaviors when there is a sense of urgency. Not to say Bryant forced him to fly, as the pilot always has authority to say "No". But, when everyone is impatient, we start to take chances. Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if he had flown in fog before and had gotten away with it. Maybe the fog at the airport wasn't bad enough to scare him.
In NASA, they call it "Go Fever". And, it gets people killed.
How do I know? I let myself be talked into driving into Louisiana the weekend right before Katrina hit. Dumbest thing I've ever done. Fortunately, I was able to get out Sunday night.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:35 pm to Bedhog
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this makes zero sense.
I wouldn’t expect it to make sense to you
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:11 pm to Thorny
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In NASA, they call it "Go Fever". And, it gets people killed.
Pilots tend to call it Get-There-Itis.
It's pretty clear this is what that was. Coupled with pilot overconfidence and not current on actionable IMC flight training/emergency maneuvers.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:21 pm to Street Hawk
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161 knots.
(That is almost 200 miles a hour).
Why so fast?
If you panic, panic up in a helicopter.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:24 pm to GumboPot
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Why so fast?
If you panic, panic up in a helicopter.
What if he didn't know which way was up?
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:25 pm to Thorny
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How do I know? I let myself be talked into driving into Louisiana the weekend right before Katrina hit. Dumbest thing I've ever done. Fortunately, I was able to get out Sunday night.
I live in Louisiana. I had "Go-Fever" the other way. I and and the family GTFO the Friday before.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:29 pm to KosmoCramer
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What if he didn't know which way was up?
I'm very ignorant of flying a helicopter and have only ridden in them a dozen times mostly out to the rigs in the GOM and once in Kauai. I believe all helicopters have altimeters but they were in a mountainous area so that probably screw up the pilot's geographical perception.
But 161 knts. Holy shite that's fast for a chopper especially in those conditions.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:57 pm to 777Tiger
My Cessna is about to lose its wings after another few knots q
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:58 pm to Street Hawk
It’s very obvious this was a controlled flight into terrain.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:59 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
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My Cessna is about to lose its wings after another few knots q
Probably was in a free fall nose dive into the side of a mountain and couldn't aerodynamically correct out of it.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:05 pm to KosmoCramer
It is amazing as a CFII seeing instrument rated pilots training to get there II flight instructor cert back in real IMC for the first time. Currency (its legal) vs Proficiency (you actually should) is a very real thing. If I haven’t been in real IMC in a few months I’ll still go fly with another instrument instructor for a few practice approaches to get back in the grove of flying when you can see anything.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:11 pm to Street Hawk
I do not understand why they continued if having all those issues...
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:35 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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small planes and helicopters are death traps.
Small planes shouldn't be compared to rotory wing aircraft. If small planes were as dangerous as helicopters, there wouldn't be many people interested enough in flying to get a commercial rating.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:36 pm to GumboPot
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But 161 knts. Holy shite that's fast for a chopper especially in those conditions.
You are correct.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:10 am to Reservoir dawg
Not sure if posted but Kobe’s helicopter didn’t have TAWS.
Fox mobile LINK
Fox mobile LINK
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The helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant didn’t have a recommended warning system to alert the pilot he was too close to land but it’s not clear it would have averted the crash that killed nine because he may have lost control as the aircraft plunged into a fog-shrouded mountain, federal officials said Tuesday.
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Determining what caused the crash will take months, but investigators may recommend that to avoid future crashes helicopters be equipped with a Terrain Awareness and Warning System that would have sounded an alarm if the aircraft was in danger of crashing. The agency made that recommendation after a similar helicopter, a Sikorsky S-76A carrying workers to an offshore drilling ship, crashed in the Gulf of Mexico near Galveston, Texas, killing all 10 people on board in 2004.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:53 am to CHSTigersFan
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So basically NTSB will chock this up to pilot error.
I don’t think there’s anything to say it wasn’t
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:39 am to DustyDinkleman
Take offs are optional.
Landings are mandatory.
Landings are mandatory.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:52 am to 777Tiger
Can a helicopter pilot just hover if they get lost in fog, then increase altitude to ensure they don't hit a mountain, and then ask for guidance from a control tower?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:58 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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Can a helicopter pilot just hover if they get lost in fog, then increase altitude to ensure they don't hit a mountain, and then ask for guidance from a control tower?
If they have aerodynamic control and more importantly know which way is "up."
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