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re: How can Deboer to PSU be anything other than a meme?
Posted by Thorny on 11/21/25 at 9:46 am to GumboTiger19
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In my mind the biggest issue with Deboer to PSU is who the hell would have a better setup than Alabama? The only people I can see even competing with Alabama is Georgia, Ohio State, and Texas.
This.
Alabama, it hurts me to say, is the best job in college football. The only place that's anywhere close is Ohio State.
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I also don’t remember Saban doing a massive PR tour about how much Baton Rouge changed him and how Saban needs LSU more than LSU needs Saban.
Pretty much every coach has denied rumors about their next job.
They lie because they have to lie. It's part of the process at this point.
Trust press conferences, not rumors.
(I don't think Kiffin leaves, but I'm not sure why his camp is doing so much trolling. I guess we will see.)
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RollTide1987 wrote:
People overreacted significantly to the 2011 college football season and blew up the sport as we know it as a result.
jchamil replied:
I don't really remember there being the same uproar in 1996 when Florida got a rematch with Florida State after losing to them in the last regular season game of the year.
The 1996 situation was different for two reasons:
1) Florida had won the SECCG in between the games, thus earning their way into the Sugar Bowl via the SEC tie-in.
2) FSU was picked for the Sugar Bowl opponent because they could not play the pre-bowl #2 Arizona State due to the Big10/Pac10 Rose Bowl tie-ins.
If the 2011 rules applied in 1996, it's most likely that Florida State would have played Arizona State for the national title. Only with Arizona State losing to Ohio State earlier in the day did the Sugar Bowl become a de-facto national championship game.
I do agree that the rematch in 2011 blew up college football as we knew it. I also think that was intentional, as ESPN already held the television rights to the BCSCG (taken over from FOX) and would greatly benefit from having a playoff contract.
The evidence I have for that is how during the Oklahoma State/Oklahoma game, they were already touting the BCSNCG game matchup between Alabama and LSU. In other words, they were saying to their viewers, "Pay no attention to this beatdown of #10 by the team the computers say should be the #2 team, we've already decided to give you another heaping helping of field goals (even though one of those teams isn't playing today)."
There's a lot of factors going on here: Bama's advantage in the Helmet Test (which translates to viewers), the whole question of whether Bama was the better team in the previous game, Okie State not being Oklahoma, etc. But, I firmly believe there were people at ESPN who were working to influence the voters to put in Bama in an attempt to push the playoff cause further.
Oh well, if we played Okie State and didn't play better that night, we would have lost to them too.
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re: Florida fouled their way to a basketball championship
Posted by Thorny on 11/20/25 at 9:58 am to RollingwiththeTide
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The only reason fouling can be a winning strategy is because players can’t make their foul shots. I never have understood how these guys can hit 3’s from almost half court but miss a wide open shot from about 15ft away from the basket. It makes no sense.
This.
Championships are won at the free throw line. Championship coaches understand this.
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re: Most coddled team of all time, Notre Dame or Bama?
Posted by Thorny on 11/19/25 at 2:17 pm to Roguestein
I firmly believe that the Helmet Test influences the committee and the media, and they feed off each other.
That said, Notre Dame is the only team that the Helmet Test benefits more than Alabama.
That said, Notre Dame is the only team that the Helmet Test benefits more than Alabama.
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We played that so much we would know what the play was going to be before they even finished saying it, and would have the ball moved and everything.
We did too. We started shuffling the offensive records on the rack each possession because we knew where they were.
Good times.
Mattel's "Talking Football" used the same multi-groove record principle.
Later adding "Monday Night Football" to the title, the game flowed where the player on offense chose a record disk based on what you wanted to do (QB run, outside run, short pass, etc.) and the defensive player chose which defense to employ (prevent, blitz, inside run, etc.) and push the record in.
Demo of the game
Three of the records were special situations, (punt, kick, etc.) and were double sided. I remember the call of one interception, "It's a leaping interception! He's going to go all the way! Touchdown!"
Spent many hours playing it.
Later adding "Monday Night Football" to the title, the game flowed where the player on offense chose a record disk based on what you wanted to do (QB run, outside run, short pass, etc.) and the defensive player chose which defense to employ (prevent, blitz, inside run, etc.) and push the record in.
Demo of the game
Three of the records were special situations, (punt, kick, etc.) and were double sided. I remember the call of one interception, "It's a leaping interception! He's going to go all the way! Touchdown!"
Spent many hours playing it.
re: Disney To YouTube TV ... "Come At Me, Bro."
Posted by Thorny on 11/14/25 at 2:26 pm to Che Boludo
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Oh, now we have to pay what is obligated in a contract... interesting.
Situationally of course. :lol:
I, of course, am paying everything I promised Brian Kelly I would. :booboo:
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My question is this....at what point does the SEC, NFL, etc....say too Disney we've signed contracts with you to broadcast our content and you aren't. Can the SEC, NFL say Disney is hurting their brand , earning power so they can legally opt out and move their product to a different network. I don't know if that's even possible.
I would love to see these leagues get involved as a support for their fans.
I don't think they actually have leverage, though. The money is flowing from the Mouse to them. For that reason, as long as Disney makes the payments, they are substantively in compliance with the contracts.
But, I'm not a lawyer, so I might not know all of the contract law details involved.
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I don’t think LSU fans are as all in on Lane as the UF fans.
Right now, the only thing that unifies LSU fans is hatred for Governor Landry, so there's that.
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re: Does 2007 LSU Go Undefeated with Saban?
Posted by Thorny on 11/14/25 at 10:20 am to H-Town Tiger
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USC and Texas started 1-2 and ran the table, no one was passing either
Having just moved to Alabama, I remember all of the Bama fans taunting Auburn fans as they were going through their undefeated 2004 season while still not getting to the national championship game.
Until LSU beat them, 2005 Bama was on the same trajectory. as they were undefeated and #3. It would have been funny to watch Bama fans crawfish had the same thing happen to them (but, as always, I enjoyed our win over them).
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re: Response Thread: What year was the last time your HC in football left for another school?
Posted by Thorny on 11/13/25 at 5:31 pm to FearlessFreep
If you mean another team, it would be 2005 when Nick Saban left for the Miami Dolphins.
If you restrict it to other schools, it would be 1962 when Paul Dietzel left to go to Army.
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If you restrict it to other schools, it would be 1962 when Paul Dietzel left to go to Army.
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re: Does 2007 LSU Go Undefeated with Saban?
Posted by Thorny on 11/13/25 at 5:14 pm to Scientific73
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Scientific73 wrote:
After seeing some clips from the 07 game against Ar-Kansas where they ran stupid against us all day long. Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis. Do believe Saban would have been more prepared for what the Hogs were bringing that day?
The interesting part of that hypothetical is whether Flynn still gets injured against Arkansas, forcing LSU to go to a back-up QB. If Saban had been our coach, that back-up would not have been Perrilloux, as he was committed to Texas until Saban left. So, would we have had a good enough backup to win the SECCG? Because if we didn't, we don't win that championship.
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patnuh wrote:
2005 was a dirty team too.
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Jim Hopper wrote:
Les also had some pretty terrible losses that wouldn’t had happened under saban.
05 Tennessee
I don't think there is a coach in America that a) could have won that Tennessee game or b) led LSU to the 2005 national title.
The recovery from Katrina impacted everything that happened on campus for over a month. The team was emotionally worn out by the time the Tennessee game happened, and while LSU did have a big halftime lead, that was one very tired team that night (which was rescheduled due to Rita.)
When you look at the whole season, you see that LSU was playing its 11th game in 10 weeks when it went to Atlanta. Again, I don't think there's a coach in America that would have won that game.
That's all setting aside whether Saban would have handled the season as well as Miles did. I personally think that 2005 Saban would have been very frustrated by the "distraction" of Katrina to the detriment of his coaching style. Yes, he would have learned, and seems to have by the time he had to deal with the aftermath of the 2011 Tuscaloosa tornado that came very close to hitting Bama's campus. Then again, the tornado was in April, so a lot of healing had already happened by the time football came around. Katrina, OTOH, was right at the beginning of the football season.
JMHO
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Hugh Freeze it is!!! LOL. He’s about the only coach we could get with a “name” right now
If we do that, I will personally take a wrecking ball to the Admin building. :yack:
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I probably wouldn’t figure a 20% down payment for someone financing a house for 50 years
True.
The numbers get even worse with lower down payments, though.
We aren't getting Lane or Nick either way. Was true before this.
So, that puts at hiring a G5 HC (Sumrall, Golesh, etc.) or a P5 coordinator (well, this is unlikely).
That scenario was true the moment that Landry opened his mouth the week after BK was fired.
This buffoonery might scare off some coaches (and their agents) that have other options (like Sumrall who is also an Auburn possible target), but we will have a new coach next year.
That coach will have a lot of confidence in himself and will think he can win championships here. Many on this board will doubt him. Only time will tell.
So, that puts at hiring a G5 HC (Sumrall, Golesh, etc.) or a P5 coordinator (well, this is unlikely).
That scenario was true the moment that Landry opened his mouth the week after BK was fired.
This buffoonery might scare off some coaches (and their agents) that have other options (like Sumrall who is also an Auburn possible target), but we will have a new coach next year.
That coach will have a lot of confidence in himself and will think he can win championships here. Many on this board will doubt him. Only time will tell.
I have no idea what happened, but I thought he would overtake Tom Hodson for the most career passing yards at LSU.
To do that now, he would have to average 100+ more yards than he has had in any one game this season (354.25 ypg). That's assumes he plays in any bowl.
Just unbelievable.
To do that now, he would have to average 100+ more yards than he has had in any one game this season (354.25 ypg). That's assumes he plays in any bowl.
Just unbelievable.
It's essentially renting the property because it drastically reduces the principle paid in the first year.
For example, let's look at a $200,000 house bought with a standard loan with 20% down, financing $160,000
Under a 30-year, the monthly payment is $992, meaning in the first year, the buyer pays a total of $11,901, with $10,048 going to interest and $1,853 going to principle.
Under a 50-year, the monthly payment is $879, meaning in the first year, the buyer pays a total of $10,553, with $10,087 going to interest and $466 going to principle.
After 10 years, the remaining balance of the 30-year would be $134,999, with $25,001 of principle paid off.
After 10 years, the remaining balance of the 50-year would be $153,707, with $6,293 of principle paid off.
So, in order to save $113 a month, (or a total of $13,506), the buyer would sacrifice $18,708 in equity.
While not as bad as the interest-only options out there or the student loan problems, a 50-year loan is not a good option for anyone.
Considering the potential for it to drive up housing prices, it's not a good plan for the country.
For example, let's look at a $200,000 house bought with a standard loan with 20% down, financing $160,000
Under a 30-year, the monthly payment is $992, meaning in the first year, the buyer pays a total of $11,901, with $10,048 going to interest and $1,853 going to principle.
Under a 50-year, the monthly payment is $879, meaning in the first year, the buyer pays a total of $10,553, with $10,087 going to interest and $466 going to principle.
After 10 years, the remaining balance of the 30-year would be $134,999, with $25,001 of principle paid off.
After 10 years, the remaining balance of the 50-year would be $153,707, with $6,293 of principle paid off.
So, in order to save $113 a month, (or a total of $13,506), the buyer would sacrifice $18,708 in equity.
While not as bad as the interest-only options out there or the student loan problems, a 50-year loan is not a good option for anyone.
Considering the potential for it to drive up housing prices, it's not a good plan for the country.
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Even as someone who grew up in Alabama, I've always been amazed at the corruption and incompetence on display in Louisiana politics.
At this point it's practically your state slogan.
Longtime Montgomery talk radio host Don Markwell used to say that "the only difference between Alabama politics and Louisiana politics is that Louisiana is proud of it."
Having graduated from LSU and lived in Alabama for many years, I fully agree with him.
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It’s not just this LSU game. Over the past few years they seem to have abandoned the core principle that the call on the field has to matter, and that football was not a game created to be played under a microscope. It’s out of hand and making the game not very fun to watch. As a fan, these reviews can be subjective and arbitrary against your team, which makes the decision on whether they are “correct” or not fairly inconsequential, if they don’t always make sure they are correct.
This.
It took 32 minutes to play the last two minutes of the first half of the Georgia-Auburn game. Just completely unwatchable.
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