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Location: | Montgomery, AL |
Biography: | Played tuba in Tiger Band 85-89 |
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Registered on: | 5/31/2008 |
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re: Veteran Suicide
Posted by Thorny on 5/13/25 at 5:30 pm
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While I don't want to make this about me, I've pretty much shut down. I'm struggling knowing that I was not there. People who know me have withdrawn from me as well. Business associates I've been kind to and have known me for years not only have stopped contact with me but speak ill of me due to my recent change in demeanor.
Sadly, one thing that we have learned about suicide is that it is contagious. People don't know how to deal with being the friend of someone going through the despair. When the friend goes through with it, their own feelings of guilt make the despair real and they start to run down that road.
Go to therapy.
Fight for your therapist to take you seriously and get the help you need.
Don't go into a shell. Please. Let people see that you are vulnerable. Learn who your friends are, and don't limit yourself to fewer-and-fewer of them.
We don't want to lose you.
Thorny
USAF retired, Afghanistan vet.
re: For other PT Catholics on new Pope? All things considered… win, loss, or even?
Posted by Thorny on 5/8/25 at 4:24 pm
A solid 7.
History of being strongly pro-life. Knows how to do the TLM, but not insistent on it (which is kind of where I am), so we're not likely to have major liturgy wars. He is unlikely to speak off the cuff in ways that sow confusion.
Will be critical of the Trump admin beyond reason, IMHO.
Just a guess. I'll be praying for him.
History of being strongly pro-life. Knows how to do the TLM, but not insistent on it (which is kind of where I am), so we're not likely to have major liturgy wars. He is unlikely to speak off the cuff in ways that sow confusion.
Will be critical of the Trump admin beyond reason, IMHO.
Just a guess. I'll be praying for him.
re: Confirmation in the Catholic Church lowered from 11th grade to 7th grade
Posted by Thorny on 5/8/25 at 4:11 pm
8th or 9th grade seem right to me.
Sacraments are not something anyone can ever fully understand, so the distinction between 8th and 11th grade doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Additionally, I'm not sure anyone needs an infusion of God's grace through reception of the Holy Spirit more than 13-year-olds.
While Bar Mitzvah's aren't exactly the same thing, having them at 13-years-old is something Jews get right.
JMHO.
Sacraments are not something anyone can ever fully understand, so the distinction between 8th and 11th grade doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Additionally, I'm not sure anyone needs an infusion of God's grace through reception of the Holy Spirit more than 13-year-olds.
While Bar Mitzvah's aren't exactly the same thing, having them at 13-years-old is something Jews get right.
JMHO.
re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse
Posted by Thorny on 5/7/25 at 12:07 pm
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But I still do not go to confession with the priest I work for
When I was working for my parish, I followed this rule too. :bow:
re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse
Posted by Thorny on 5/7/25 at 11:22 am
Forgiveness of sins is the most revolutionary teaching of Jesus. He literally forgave a real criminal hanging on the cross beside him as he made an act of faith.
As such, it is not the job of the priest to do other than forgive even the most heinous crimes in the confessional if the penitent is attempting to repent. Only in grave circumstances should a priest refuse to grant absolution.
Many will say, "priests should be held to the same standard as teachers." But, this doesn't work because teachers aren't generally basing their decisions to report on self-reporting by the accused. Instead, they are seeing other evidence (bruises, malnutrition, or something like the victim coming forth). These types of things are not what happens in confession.
The seal of the confessional is absolute and it must remain so. If I were a priest in Washington, I would stop any face-to-face confessions to make sure the state would never be able to prove I knew who was the penitent.
(Oh, and many priests have told me that God gives them the grace to not remember anything that was told to them in the confessional.)
As such, it is not the job of the priest to do other than forgive even the most heinous crimes in the confessional if the penitent is attempting to repent. Only in grave circumstances should a priest refuse to grant absolution.
Many will say, "priests should be held to the same standard as teachers." But, this doesn't work because teachers aren't generally basing their decisions to report on self-reporting by the accused. Instead, they are seeing other evidence (bruises, malnutrition, or something like the victim coming forth). These types of things are not what happens in confession.
The seal of the confessional is absolute and it must remain so. If I were a priest in Washington, I would stop any face-to-face confessions to make sure the state would never be able to prove I knew who was the penitent.
(Oh, and many priests have told me that God gives them the grace to not remember anything that was told to them in the confessional.)
re: Sonicare vs. Oral B toothbrushes
Posted by Thorny on 5/3/25 at 9:20 pm
I prefer my Sonicare over the Oral B I had years ago.
Both get your teeth cleaner than regular brushing.
Both get your teeth cleaner than regular brushing.
re: Better LSU coach, Mike Archer or Brian Kelly ?
Posted by Thorny on 5/3/25 at 8:04 pm
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(See 1973. And 1978. And 2011.)
That is like half of LSU’s wins against Alabama.
Shows how much you know: Bama beat LSU in 1973 and 1978.
But, they lost to the team they "shared" the national championship with in those years: Notre Dame in 73 and Southern Cal in 78.
So, failure to recognize head-to-head losses runs deep in Bama culture.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: WA new law requires priests to notify police if abuse is admitted during confession
Posted by Thorny on 5/3/25 at 8:00 pm
1) This is a gross violation of religious liberty, as the SCOTUS has already said. In Trammel v. United States, 445 U.S. 40 (1980), the Supreme Court recognized "the human need to disclose to a spiritual counselor, in total and absolute confidence, what are believed to be flawed acts or thoughts and to receive priestly consolation and guidance in return."
2) Since the basic principle of US law is "innocent until proven guilty," the expansion of "mandatory reporters" clouds the issue of who is "the government." Since it is the government that has to prove guilt, it seems somewhat spurious to haphazardly force everyone to act as an agent of the government, especially where questions of self-incrimination and the Fifth Amendment are concerned.
3) With those in mind, it seems to me that clergy and mental health professionals should be shielded from mandatory reporting. Societies need some type of pressure release valve that would allow criminals to seek help due to feelings of guilt without fear of being immediately arrested. (This is different from teachers in that teachers are reporting suspicious activity not gained from any sort of confession from the alleged perpetrator.)
4) Violation of the confessional results in excommunication for Catholic priests. Priests will not comply with this requirement.
5) It is true that priests who are abusers weaponize the confessional against good priests. Many who were caught have admitted to confessing their sins to multiple priests to reduce the chance another priest could testify against them They would be able to accuse such a priest of violating the confessional.
6) While the stain of priestly abusers will haunt the Church for decades, the problem is too prevalent in all sectors of society. This law places priests and ministers as a scape-goat for a much deeper and much more serious problem.
7) I respect the opinions of those who disagree based on the seriousness of the crimes.
Peace.
2) Since the basic principle of US law is "innocent until proven guilty," the expansion of "mandatory reporters" clouds the issue of who is "the government." Since it is the government that has to prove guilt, it seems somewhat spurious to haphazardly force everyone to act as an agent of the government, especially where questions of self-incrimination and the Fifth Amendment are concerned.
3) With those in mind, it seems to me that clergy and mental health professionals should be shielded from mandatory reporting. Societies need some type of pressure release valve that would allow criminals to seek help due to feelings of guilt without fear of being immediately arrested. (This is different from teachers in that teachers are reporting suspicious activity not gained from any sort of confession from the alleged perpetrator.)
4) Violation of the confessional results in excommunication for Catholic priests. Priests will not comply with this requirement.
5) It is true that priests who are abusers weaponize the confessional against good priests. Many who were caught have admitted to confessing their sins to multiple priests to reduce the chance another priest could testify against them They would be able to accuse such a priest of violating the confessional.
6) While the stain of priestly abusers will haunt the Church for decades, the problem is too prevalent in all sectors of society. This law places priests and ministers as a scape-goat for a much deeper and much more serious problem.
7) I respect the opinions of those who disagree based on the seriousness of the crimes.
Peace.
re: Better LSU coach, Mike Archer or Brian Kelly ?
Posted by Thorny on 5/3/25 at 4:49 pm
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If only they had played a head to head tie breaker…
That's never mattered to Bama before.
(See 1973. And 1978. And 2011.)
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: What was the most disappointing season for your team in your lifetime?
Posted by Thorny on 5/3/25 at 4:39 pm
For me, it's 1989 LSU.
Entered the season #7, had Tom Hodson at QB, a favorable schedule, and an experienced team that the Houston Chronicle said was a favorite to win the national title in their pre-season prediction the day we played in College Station.
Texas A&M ran back the opening kickoff.
We would lose 6 of the first 7 games, mostly close games that we could have won. But, we weren't a good team at all, finishing 4-7.
The opening of the Dark Ages.
Oh, it was also my last year in Tiger Band. Sigh.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Entered the season #7, had Tom Hodson at QB, a favorable schedule, and an experienced team that the Houston Chronicle said was a favorite to win the national title in their pre-season prediction the day we played in College Station.
Texas A&M ran back the opening kickoff.
We would lose 6 of the first 7 games, mostly close games that we could have won. But, we weren't a good team at all, finishing 4-7.
The opening of the Dark Ages.
Oh, it was also my last year in Tiger Band. Sigh.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: Jalen Milroe will be better NFL quarterback than Cam Newton ever thought about being
Posted by Thorny on 4/30/25 at 4:04 pm
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Jalen Milroe will be better NFL quarterback than Cam Newton ever thought about being
How is that possible? Has LSU become an NFL team?
GEAUX TIGERS (Sigh)
re: Pope Francis has Died
Posted by Thorny on 4/23/25 at 1:47 pm
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You would have to bi-pass their vows of poverty so that a priest could support a family.
diocesan priests do not take a vow of poverty
True, but you would be surprised at how low their pay is. They do (generally) get the benefit of not having to pay for housing and getting food & mileage allowances, but otherwise their pay is a pittance.
I was a bookkeeper in a parish for a while a little over a decade ago. We paid three priests about $18,000 a year (again, they had housing and some food reimbursement), as was standard in my Archdiocese.
re: Holy Moly College is expensive
Posted by Thorny on 4/11/25 at 10:03 am
The system is designed to screw the parents. It has to be the design, because it's so good at it.
I have 4 sons. #1 was happy to go to an in-state school and #3 went to the Naval Academy. They were pretty easy.
The other two wanted to test the waters of top private schools, so we did many trips to top engineering and computer science schools.
When we talked to the financial aide office, we always got the same story. "Mr. Thorny, from your FAFSA, we have determined that your son is eligible for loans and grants that cut our $55,000 cost to $20,000 that will come out of your pocket."
"Okay, I have the Post 9-11 GI Bill, which I can apply to my kid. I can pay the $20,000 from that."
"Oh, no. If you applied that benefit, it would change the grants and scholarships, but you would still need to pay $20,000 out of pocket."
EVERY TIME. They wanted to take my benefit and make it theirs.
They both ended up at Auburn and graduated with no debt due to a mix of scholarships and that GI Bill.
As for the others, I have no sympathy for the schools. I'm willing to forgive some of the student loan debt, but the schools have to have some skin in the game. Right now, they don't.
GEAUX TIGERS
WAR EAGLE
I have 4 sons. #1 was happy to go to an in-state school and #3 went to the Naval Academy. They were pretty easy.
The other two wanted to test the waters of top private schools, so we did many trips to top engineering and computer science schools.
When we talked to the financial aide office, we always got the same story. "Mr. Thorny, from your FAFSA, we have determined that your son is eligible for loans and grants that cut our $55,000 cost to $20,000 that will come out of your pocket."
"Okay, I have the Post 9-11 GI Bill, which I can apply to my kid. I can pay the $20,000 from that."
"Oh, no. If you applied that benefit, it would change the grants and scholarships, but you would still need to pay $20,000 out of pocket."
EVERY TIME. They wanted to take my benefit and make it theirs.
They both ended up at Auburn and graduated with no debt due to a mix of scholarships and that GI Bill.
As for the others, I have no sympathy for the schools. I'm willing to forgive some of the student loan debt, but the schools have to have some skin in the game. Right now, they don't.
GEAUX TIGERS
WAR EAGLE
re: Holy Moly College is expensive
Posted by Thorny on 4/11/25 at 9:42 am
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There are maybe 10 schools that are actually worth that, from a national perspective. No one in Orlando is going to be impressed you went to UC Davis over USF and 3 years after graduation the school you went to barely matters at all (for most fields)
As I told my son when he was about to graduate from Auburn and looking for a job, "Right now, companies will judge you based on their opinions of Auburn. After about 6 months of you working there, they will judge Auburn based on their opinion of you."
re: Anytime we play Auburn in anything, I can’t get these two images out of my head
Posted by Thorny on 4/11/25 at 8:46 am
I was at the 1994 Interception Game. Howard threw 5 interceptions in the 4th quarter. The first three were the pick-sixes, and then he threw two interceptions on consecutive plays, as the first one was fumbled back to LSU on the run back. The first of those two was thrown on the 5 and the second was in the endzone. We were so close to winning that game: all we needed was to have Howard take a knee on the third down with less than 2 minutes left.
As for 2001:
GEAUX TIGERS
As for 2001:
GEAUX TIGERS
re: Fail Gifs. Let's post them.
Posted by Thorny on 4/8/25 at 10:41 am
Yes, JUMAS.
Those sweats sucked. We had the worst basketball band uniforms ever.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Those sweats sucked. We had the worst basketball band uniforms ever.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: Fail Gifs. Let's post them.
Posted by Thorny on 4/7/25 at 5:45 pm
quote:
Auburn at LSU, 1987. I was filling in on trumpet in the basketball band for the game because one of the other trumpet players had an exam that evening.
I was in Bengal Brass that year, playing tuba.
quote:
He gave up and walked to center court with a basketball, tossed it (no look) over his right should from the logo and caught nothing but net.
I remember that shot. Everyone was stunned.
GEAUX TIGERS
re: Last 9 games Auburn when 5-4. They fell apart coming down the stretch.
Posted by Thorny on 4/7/25 at 4:09 pm
quote:
When it came time to be champions Pearl the secret witness coach and his team of mid 20's misfits and thugs failed.
Failure and disappointment is nothing new for Auburn fans.
I love feeling the pain of Auburn fans and reading their weak post.
Reasonable post if they had failed to make the Sweet Sixteen.
Delusional post about a team that lost in a National Semifinal.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: Darren McFadden, Peyton Hillis and Felix Jones SHOCK No. 1 LSU
Posted by Thorny on 4/4/25 at 2:18 pm
I was in the North End Zone that day.
Before the Ark 4th & 10 in the 1st OT was incredibly loud--one of the loudest moments I've ever experienced in Tiger Stadium. After Hillis caught the ball, it never got that loud again.
After the game was the quietest I've ever heard Tiger Stadium.
What an incredibly frustrating game.
GEAUX TIGERS!
Before the Ark 4th & 10 in the 1st OT was incredibly loud--one of the loudest moments I've ever experienced in Tiger Stadium. After Hillis caught the ball, it never got that loud again.
After the game was the quietest I've ever heard Tiger Stadium.
What an incredibly frustrating game.
GEAUX TIGERS!
re: Pictures from days gone by....
Posted by Thorny on 4/1/25 at 10:47 am
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I believe that's a fake photo Chin, that's a good looking woman, or maybe AI likeness of a woman, but that's not a 737, and something off about that glassware? also that guys leg looks jacked up, I think that's AI or shopped
Also, I don't think airliners of that size ever had rear facing seats and tables between them. That's a passenger train seat configuration. Probably AI.
JMHO.
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