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Killer cop in "swatting" incident will not be charged
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:30 pm
Sad day for truth, justice, and the American way
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The fatal shooting of Andrew Finch in Wichita, Kansas, drew national attention in December, as it appeared to be the first case of a "Swatting" call turning deadly. "Swatting" is a particularly nasty prank in which someone calls 911 and falsely claims to be involved in a dangerous hostage situation, drawing a SWAT raid to somebody else's home and terrifying the targets.
In this case, a Los Angeles man reportedly made the false call as a result of some video game dispute. Finch wasn't even involved in the dispute; the suspect, Tyler Barriss, was given Finch's address by the person he was arguing with. Barriss allegedly called 911 and claimed to have shot his own dad at Finch's address and to be holding a family hostage.
Police arrived armed and prepared for a hostage situation. According to Finch's family, Finch saw the police lights outside and—not realizing that his own home was their target—went out on the front porch to see what was happening. Ten seconds later he was shot and killed by police.
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This is a terrible decision for a couple of reasons. First, it reinforces a culture in which officers are permitted to shoot and kill anybody on the basis of their own fears and to believe the worst in any encounter. This law enforcement culture puts all of us at risk in every encounter with police. If a completely harmless man can be shot on his own porch and police can say they thought he was reaching for a weapon, that's a terrible way to protect public safety.
And knowing that police can avoid responsibility for these shootings actually incentivizes "swatting" calls. If police knew they could face consequences for reacting rashly to such calls, they'd be more careful. If they're more careful, their responses to these calls won't cause the results the pranksters want.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
That cop is a huge pussy.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Have no problems with their decision.
Now, the dude who called in the swatting is the one who needs to be charged with Murder. Not sure if Kansas has the law about anyone dying in a crime, remaining criminals get charged with murder of dead person(s)
Now, the dude who called in the swatting is the one who needs to be charged with Murder. Not sure if Kansas has the law about anyone dying in a crime, remaining criminals get charged with murder of dead person(s)
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there's a push to increase the penalties for making these swatting calls. Barriss faces manslaughter charges, and various people want to increase the punishment he faces for his role in making this happen. And perhaps he should face tougher penalties.
sounds like the guy who set it all in motion will be punished...i don't see the problem
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
He should have complied.
People don't get shot by police if they haven't been doing anything wrong.
Officer feared for his life.
Paid administrative leave pending internal investigation.
Etc.
People don't get shot by police if they haven't been doing anything wrong.
Officer feared for his life.
Paid administrative leave pending internal investigation.
Etc.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:36 pm to SeeeeK
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Now, the dude who called in the swatting is the one who needs to be charged with Murder.
pretty sure he has been
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Have no problems with their decision.
this dude literally walked outside of his house and was fricking murdered by overzealous LEO
you have NO problems with this?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:36 pm to Topwater Trout
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.i don't see the problem
a person was killed that didn't have to be, if LEO acted rationally
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:37 pm to SeeeeK
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Have no problems with their decision.
I have some problems with officers fearing for their life in every situation when this often has no connection to reality.
This policy spares the officers lives and instead endangers innocent civilians, while ensuring they arent held responsible due to their fear in the moment.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
I hate when they say a cop "killed" someone. That word has really negative connotations
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:38 pm to SeeeeK
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Have no problems with their decision.
GFY
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:39 pm to Open Your Eyes
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People don't get shot by police if they haven't been doing anything wrong.
Exactly. This dudes crime is blatantly apparent to anyone with a brain.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a person was killed that didn't have to be, if LEO acted rationally
You are a lawyer right?
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A Kansas district attorney announced yesterday that a police officer who shot an unarmed man on his own porch will not face charges because the officer was operating under the impression that he was responding to a hostage situation.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:39 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Officer feared for his life.
These are the magic words that need be uttered and a cop will be set free.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:39 pm to brass2mouth
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problem with this line of thinking is that now the cop is hesitating and hesitation can get you shot in the face
Yep. So instead, don't hesitate and shoot innocent, non-threatening people in the face. Makes perfect sense.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:40 pm to brass2mouth
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and hesitation can get you shot in the face
more mythology than reality
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:40 pm to brass2mouth
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problem with this line of thinking is that now the cop is hesitating and hesitation can get you shot in the face
Being a police officer is a dangerous job. That doesn't mean you get to shoot unarmed people.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
just a run of the mill senseless 'justified' killing
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:40 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I have some problems with officers fearing for their life in every situation
you know this is not even close to being accurate
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