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re: Jury Finds Woman Innocent in Protecting her Dog from a Cop

Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20129 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:53 pm to
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he testified to that, per the article, so i doubt the police would allow him to lie about that. that was probably their defense

"it's fricked up, but it's within our regulatory power" essentiallly


I'm telling you, that version of "the truth" is highly doubtful.

Two things to consider:

1) this is the media REPORTING what was said.

2) just because he testified that way does NOT mean that he was correct about the policy or that he was testifying exactly as the police agency lawyer wanted him to.

2)a). He probably had a separate lawyer from the police agency

The use of force against dogs as he described DOES NOT fit in with any force continuum I have ever heard of.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6778 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:57 pm to
At the end of the video it says the cops went in the house and confiscated all phones and cameras.
WTF?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63190 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:01 pm to
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testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail


Would suck to be walking your dog on a leash and pass an idiot who thinks this is legitimately his duty as a cop.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:02 pm to
There's a cause I could get behind - there should be no law enforcement agency anywhere with a policy that an officer "kill all dogs that approach them."
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:03 pm to
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Cook "testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case."


It's a job requirement

Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24479 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:03 pm to
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cop would probably have to kill me as well. which im sure he'd have no problem doing


that depends. are you black?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14897 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:06 pm to
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that depends. are you black?



no, but i would immediately become an enemy combatant.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:09 pm to
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no, but i would immediately become an enemy combatant.


If you did and I was on the jury, I'd vote "not guilty."
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3673 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:09 pm to
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no, but i would immediately become an enemy combatant.


If you did and I was on the jury, I'd vote "not guilty."
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79322 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:12 pm to
Grown arse male afraid of family pet example #24582597248
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:33 pm to
On the one hand, it's going to really suck in the next 20 years when audio and video is embedded everywhere and very few places aren't covered but a small upside is that shite like this will be coming to an end.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:33 pm to
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I cannot understand a policy that says all dogs that approach MUST be killed.


Snoop should probably avoid that jurisdiction.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23832 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

At the end of the video it says the cops went in the house and confiscated all phones and cameras.
WTF?
Yay America
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:35 pm to
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was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him



what in the actual frick...is this real life?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64752 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:42 pm to
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'm telling you, that version of "the truth" is highly doubtful.

Two things to consider:

1) this is the media REPORTING what was said.

2) just because he testified that way does NOT mean that he was correct about the policy or that he was testifying exactly as the police agency lawyer wanted him to.

2)a). He probably had a separate lawyer from the police agency

The use of force against dogs as he described DOES NOT fit in with any force continuum I have ever heard of.



The cop stated under oath on the stand that he was following his training. That's pretty cut and dry. So one of two things are true here

1. He was telling the truth about being required to shoot any dog that approaches him, even if he does not feel threatened

Or

2. He lied on the stand which makes him guilty of perjury.

Which one do you think is true?
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18591 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:43 pm to
There is no way that's true. There is no way any use of force action has a required outcome. The use of force is a fluid principle. Now maybe the officer is an idiot and should therefore be fired, but I refuse to believe he was trained that way.
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47659 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:56 pm to
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Just look at that vicious beast.

He even scared the dog.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:59 pm to
Is that the actual video?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11303 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 2:04 pm to
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testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case.


I'm thinking many of these incidents come from these idiots misunderstanding their training.
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