re: Judge overturns Adnan Syed’s 1999 murder conviction. UPDATE : All Charges Dropped 10/11/22

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They had already found the car before Jay provided this info.

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And you know this how?

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This is false. He said where he was and had a witness come forward saying she talked with him at the school library that day after she was already missing

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Ehh

I’m currently listening to the serial for the first time.

That whole talked to him at the library thing seemed sketchy as hell. Her statements and actions years later were even more sketchy.

Also, I ASSURE you I’d remember exchanging pleasantries with an acquaintance in the library the day the love of my life went missing.

Maybe not RIGHT off the top of my head but you bet your arse I’d sit down and figure out where I was and who I talked to when I learned that my gf was legitimately missing.

Sure they asked him 3 whole weeks later. But it couldn’t have been more than a day or 2 before he thought HEAVILY on where the hell he was that day.

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Guilty people usually provide exact details of their whereabouts and actions, because they know they will need to know those things.

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Exact details are verifiable, so guilty people are limited by the reality that the details involve the crime.

Adnan has pretty good recall of that day until it matters, what he did immediately after school because - per multiple witnesses and his own initial statement to the police - he had asked Hae for a ride putting them together at the exact moment she went missing.

I tend to believe he and Steven Avery are innocent… maybe I’m just gullible but that jay dude was just making shite up. The cops had no real evidence, no way either of them should be behind bars based on their trials

The bottom line for Avery and Syed is the police are guilty. That is what should concern all of us. They didn't get justice for their victims properly and that is why all of this is happening. The police are to blame.

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That whole talked to him at the library thing seemed sketchy as hell. Her statements and actions years later were even more sketchy.

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Here are some facts that serial left out. From the point of view of the prosecution:

Adnan Syed NEVER told police detectives he was at the public library after school the day.

Adnan Syed claims that he was asked to remember, weeks later, what he was doing the day Hae Min Lee disappeared, despite the fact that a police detective called him the same day she went missing.

There are memos summarizing the defense team's other meetings with Mr. Syed, none of which say that Mr. Syed said went to the library after school that day.

In his Serial interview with Sarah Koenig, we heard Adnan tell Sarah Koenig that he did NOT ask Hae Min Lee for a ride that day. This contradicts the testimony of two witnesses that heard him ask Lee for a ride.

In his Serial interview, he told Sarah Koenig that he NEVER would have asked for a ride from Hae Min Lee because she had to go pick up her cousin. But his own defense file mentions that him and Hae used to have sex right after school. So Mr. Syed lied in his Serial interview.

Asia McClain's language in her letter dated March 1 indicates she is offering to provide a false alibi. She provides an enormous window of 2:15 to 8 p.m. "I will try my best to help you account for some of your unwitnessed, unaccountable lost time (2:15 - 8:00; Jan 13th)."

Asia McClain testified in Mr. Syed's 2nd post conviction relief hearing that she learned of the 2:15 to 8 p.m. time frame from Syed's own family.

You saw evidence that Mr. Syed wrote a letter to his friend to give to Asia McClain to type up.

Asia McClain claimed that the day Hae Min Lee was murdered and the day she saw Adnan in the library was the first snow storm of the year. The first snow storm of the year was the week before.

I have no idea whether or not Syed is guilty or innocent. I finished the podcasts several years ago feeling like he was guilty.

What I do know is that the key evidence(s) presented in the trial that led to his conviction has been proven to be mostly bullshite since that time. Jay’s story, the cell phone tower records, the prosecution’s theory - corroborated by Jay’s testimony about the timeline, how she was killed, the position she was in, etc. All of it has been debunked. Add that to the fact that the one person who saw Adnan and could provide an alibi wasn’t even called to witness by his defense attorney, who was suffering from two different terminal illnesses… at the very least he needs a new trial.

The prosecution’s key witness changed his story on the record not fewer than 7 different times and admitted he had lied to police multiple times. The cell phone tower expert has also now recanted his testimony, because the prosecution failed to provide him with the fax cover sheet stating that incoming calls were not reliable for location. He’s stated he never would have testified if he had been given that information.

Liberal DA or not, Syed being a murderer or not. His trial was fricked from the jump.

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The blood pooling analysis

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This alone should have been enough to completely disregard Jay’s testimony on nearly every aspect of the event. Quite literally nothing he said about her disposal could have possibly been true based on the blood pooling analysis.

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seem to me like you never listened. The blood pooling analysis

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I’ve listened to Undisclosed, read Rabia’s book, watched the HBO documentary and looked at source material - including trial transcripts and the autopsy report.

Like you, I have a true interest in the case. I happen to be very skeptical of the interpretation being put forth in some of the podcasts.

For instance, I’ve seen plenty of explanations which satisfied me the lividity issue is being cherry-picked by the Adnan advocates.

In short, the only frontal lividity was on Hae’s face and upper chest which is consistent with the was she was buried - on her right side twisted in such a manner that her face and chest were flat on the ground. Undisclosed makes it sound like there was full frontal lividity consistent with her lying on her stomach for an extended period. This is a great fact for Adnan if true, but it seems the lividity actually found doesn’t help him at all and is likely consistent with the narrative put forth at trial.