re: Joel Osteen about to open his church up

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It's not his private business; he runs that shite tax free which means it's government subsidized.

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non profits arent governed by the government, so what you posted is a load of bullshite. Its a corporation and is ran like a corporation just like any other business filed as a corporation.

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Can't win for trying. People are going to shite on Christians whether they help or not.

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there's that Christian victim complex!

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It kind of is his responsibility. Churches are supposed to be resources of the community. It's why they are tax exempt. By initially refusing to help the community in its time of need he just exposed himself as the sham that everyone already knew that he is. By backtracking when he gets negative publicity it just further enforces the con.

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its not his or the churches responsibility. outside of that, Is the Houston PD able to man another center that can house 10's of thousands of people? Do they have the facilities necessary to support people living there without putting them in a worse situation than they were already in? You dont just open the doors and it is kumbaya

Hopefully Joel gets his arse kicked.

Joel Osteen made the vast majority of his money off book sales. He puts in a lot of money and time working with poor kids and families not only in other countries but right there in TX. I've done research on his church myself and personally know a man who goes to his church. They on a daily basis are pouring money and definitely time and hard work helping poor communities. Joel and his wife donate to many different charities and they also get out and get their hands dirty and also many times prefer to do it off camera.

I understand people get upset about the money he makes, but if I wrote a book and sold millions of copies, I'm gonna live nice also, while putting in money and time to help others. I am not myself an Osteen fan. As far as this situation, from account of my friend who goes there the church was flooded. He agreed Osteen could have released a better statement. Many members are out working tirelessly trying to help while they are mostly in a bind themselves.

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its not his responsibility to open up his building to let people stay. Thats why we have all of these government agencies and buildings that we designate as shelters that way pay huge amounts of taxes to fund. And it could be argued that this situation with people trapped is because of governments failure to try and get people to evacuate. That is not a Joel Osteen problem.

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I agree and disagree. His church so whatever, I agree he can do what he wants. He doesn't pay taxes though, again church so whatever, but I think a bit of public servitude is expected in exchange. If not codified he can do what he likes, but he's a douche and profiteering off not only his congregation but the us tax law as it stands. And lots of small government people argue that we shouldn't have these huge public safety nets and rely on the generosity of private entities -churches in particular are given as examples - but when push comes to shove those avenues aren't always available.

Frick Joel Osteen, it raises lots of interesting topics though.

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I agree and disagree. His church so whatever, I agree he can do what he wants. He doesn't pay taxes though, again church so whatever, but I think a bit of public servitude is expected in exchange. If not codified he can do what he likes, but he's a douche and profiteering off not only his congregation but the us tax law as it stands. And lots of small government people argue that we shouldn't have these huge public safety nets and rely on the generosity of private entities -churches in particular are given as examples - but when push comes to shove those avenues aren't always available.

Frick Joel Osteen, it raises lots of interesting topics though.

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I live in North La and have no affiliation with that church. As I said above I do know someone that goes there and have looked into his church. I don't like his preaching style as I'm more old school with how I like my preachings. He does not take a profit from his church. His money is made off book sales. The church members are out working trying to help people whether its at other evacuation centers, or in the boats themselves. From what I've been told Osteen is busy himself trying to help. The church was pretty much inaccessible and they also felt within the incoming days it would just get worse and didn't want 100s of people to just be trapped, again.

Mattress Mack called him and told him to quit being a little bitch.

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its not his or the churches responsibility. outside of that, Is the Houston PD able to man another center that can house 10's of thousands of people? Do they have the facilities necessary to support people living there without putting them in a worse situation than they were already in? You dont just open the doors and it is kumbaya

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We are Christians telling him that it is his responsibility. If you're not a Christian and are speaking from your perspective as a citizen, your point may be valid but is largely irrelevant to what many are talking about.