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re: It's not their fault they're fat! NPR edition

Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7595 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:32 am to
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Fat acceptance needs to stop



let me guess, you're built like a greek god
Posted by AlumneyeJ93
Member since Apr 2022
652 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:32 am to
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how often do you lift?


4 times a week.
Posted by The Top G
Member since Jan 2023
139 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:33 am to
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Just a calculation of height, age and weight doesn't account for muscle mass or fitness or if your bone structure


Wow, riveting analysis.

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I do work out


What's your bf %?

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15 lbs of blubber to lose.


I'd bet you do.

If you truly workout, you should be able to understand that you are an outlier. This is an incredibly simple concept.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 11:34 am
Posted by AlumneyeJ93
Member since Apr 2022
652 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:35 am to
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I'm 6'3 190 and looking to drop another 10 by April.

Not close to a skeleton or concentration camp survivor.


That's hard to imagine. After one of my surgeries, I dropped down to 195 and looked like death was coming.

Must be all in the proportions or bone density I guess.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53117 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:35 am to
As a person of size myself I always try to seek out doctors of size because they are down with the struggle. These little stick doctors don’t know what it’s like to be a full sized human
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:39 am to
Trained in obesity?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51375 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:40 am to
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I dropped down to 195 and looked like death was coming.


No you didn't.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47793 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:42 am to
We watch too much NFL, NBA, and WWE in this country and think those guys measurements and bodies are normal…

Meanwhile we talk shite about other countries who are into soccer, but they don’t seem to have an obesity epidemic
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
828 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:44 am to
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Even a poster above me brags about his willpower yet is only able to lose weight and not keep it off.

The only difference between people today and people 50 years ago, a thinner generation, are external influences. The problem is multifactorial. If you take your normalization glasses off and zoom out, you can see the parabolic deviation from the ways we have lived for hundreds of thousands of years. We traded interdependence and purpose for consumerism and radical individualism. This is western modernity.


It's hard to keep it off because it's much easier when you're busy with kids to just grab fast food or pizza. Nothing like getting home at 6 only to realize you forgot to take the ground beef out of the freezer. The difference is we now have a sugar diet. Everything has a sugar in it. Once you start watching what you eat, you realize you're in for basically cooking your own food for as long as you can keep it up. Discipline is hard and you're right... we're conditioned at every turn to take the easy way out.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63192 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:45 am to
It's hard to imagine going from 205 to 190 would change your physical appearance in any significant way.

Either your perception is warped or you are jacked and would not be considered an average person for the purposes of BMI.

6'2 205 isn't stop and look at the fatty big, but it's slightly overweight outside of an outlier scenario.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53117 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:47 am to
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I'm convinced the BMI scale is slanted towards fat. My last med visit report said I had a BMI of 26.7 and listed as overweight (6'2", 205 lbs). They are freaking nuts. I would have to lose 15 pounds to get to a BMI of 24. I'd be a skeleton as well.

Don’t starve yourself king. You’re beautiful just the way you are. Real women like curves, only dogs like bones. You’re not a real man if you weigh less than 200 lbs
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31431 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:54 am to
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I believe it assumes that most people carry very little muscle mass.


because they dont. Last study i saw estimated only 12% of the population does any form of resistance training atleast once per week and less than 10% lift weights once a week

if less than 10% of your population is doing any form of lifting what do you expect. Less than 5% are actually lifting weights in a progessive manner consistenly enough to accumulate any real muscle, atleast enough to throw off the BMI to any significant degree


so bmi is accurate for 90-95% of the population

why would we not use it to track the population as a whole?

all the guys in here talk about looking like a skeleton at certain weights, yet would love to look like they did in HS.....newsflash....that skeleton look you talk about....thats the look you had in HS and you didnt look like a skeleton, you looked in shape.
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2081 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:56 am to
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My last med visit report said I had a BMI of 26.7 and listed as overweight (6'2", 205 lbs). They are freaking nuts. I would have to lose 15 pounds to get to a BMI of 24. I'd be a skeleton as well.
I'm 6'2, 185. I was like you at 205 for a good while in 20's and 30's, then at 40 had my ACL replaced and began cycling and running more and lost weight. What I discovered is at 185 I could run/bike faster and further than I had ever imagined. And I just felt better. Yeah, I'm thin. But I'm in shape. These days I lift more than bike/run, but just don't eat much (or stupidly).

You should try it, forget about how you look (insecurities).
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67592 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:58 am to
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Usually only eats one full meal a day (lunch), and sometimes fixes something small (like a sandwich or something) in the evenings.


this just doesn't make sense...he must snack or do something else to struggle to keep his weight down
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41199 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:02 pm to
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I run about 20 miles a week, so I can continue to eat carbs.




Same here. 20-30 miles a week. I can eat whatever I want within reason. I'm finally committing to a higher protein intake to try and make some gainz. Slinging some weight around at the gym.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5750 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:02 pm to
It’s so gross how our government is pushing people systemically into being lazy, pathetic, disgusting pieces of mentally ill shite and certain people eat it up so they won’t have to experience any type of discomfort in the form of hard work, ever.

If you eat fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight. The misconception comes from the fact that most people completely ignore resting metabolic rate where every pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day. Most people who “stay soooo active but can’t lose weight” are doing a bunch of walking or jogging and have zero muscle mass under all of their fat.

If I’m moderately fit and have 20 pounds of muscle on my body that you don’t have, I’m burning 40,000+ calories per year that you’re not just by existing. That’s 20 full days of food that I can eat and still break even.

People who work out to gain muscle year in and year out, eat a reasonable amount of calories, and don’t eat a shite ton of junk food will look good. This is a 100% undeniable, unwavering, scientific fact. So sad how many people are handcuffing themselves in this thread and pretending that they’re fat because they have bad genes and not because they can’t stay disciplined for years on end
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20248 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:06 pm to
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let me guess, you're built like a greek god

Now I see where your son gets it from.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2149 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:07 pm to
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neighborhood design, food insecurity, and access to fresh produce
Buzzwords for racism...

If you can get to the stores to protest and can get to the government offices to establish and maintain handouts, you can get to the store for groceries if you skip the fast food joints.

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stigma can cause weight gain
Stigma = Weight Gain?? They removed the middle part... Stigma = Behavioral Decisions. Behavioral Decisions = Weight Gain.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38907 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:09 pm to
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I dropped down to 195 and looked like death was coming.
like sands through the hourglass
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42221 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:14 pm to
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, I dropped down to 195 and looked like death was coming.
I gave up eating twinkies with every meal and I dropped down to 195 - no one recognized me!! But I switched to Swiss cake rolls
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