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re: It's not their fault they're fat! NPR edition

Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
206 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:55 pm to
You are ignorant. This issue is beyond the “I think” phase. Obesity is a disease. This is a fact. Not something you can argue against. Fact. Remain ignorant if you like. Doesn’t change the real world around you, son.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4397 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:30 pm to
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Italy, with all their carb-based meals, ranks 82


There pastas are often made from scratch, not processed garbage.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4397 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Obesity is a disease. This is a fact. Not something you can argue against. Fact.


Lung cancer is a diseased caused almost entirely by smoking. Cirrhosis is a disease caused almost entirely by drinking. Obesity is disease caused by shoving trash food into your jowls.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
36632 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:07 pm to
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He says the problem also perpetuates itself: "There aren't a lot of people trained in obesity," he says, and "if you weren't trained in medical school and you didn't take it upon yourself to learn about it, you're not going to be in a position to be an informed, expert faculty member."
I had no clue I needed to be a trained expert to know not to eat McDonald's 6 times a day with 2 shakes and 4 Twinkies for dessert.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:09 pm to
Most obese people aren't gorging to that extent but you definitely don't need some formal training to be in shape. Additional knowledge might help though
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
36632 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:11 pm to
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rarely see a skinny person on a motorized scooter.
That's quite an astute observation there.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
36632 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:18 pm to
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Eat less
Move around more you lazy fricks

The lazy fricks that do try to lose weight do so by not eating bc they're too lazy to go workout. Which is a very unhealthy way to lose weight.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:26 pm to
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Taking in more calories than you burncan cause weight gain..

I fixed it for him. It’s incredible how bad people are at counting calories. I struggled for years with gaining weight until I started meticulously weighing the food I was to get an accurate counting of the calories I ate in a day. It’s the same for people trying to lose weight who just eyeball portions.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73004 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:38 pm to
It’s very simple. Put the cookies down and substitute healthy food for snacks. Go for a walk between binge watching Netflix. Drink more water. And then start doing that everyday. Everything else is just an excuse. We have become a soft nation of perpetual victims. It’s pretty pathetic.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:51 pm to
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Obesity is a disease. This is a fact.


Actually the people who want to tell obesity is a disease are the same people who panic when someone asks them to define the word "woman"....
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36101 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:30 pm to
This board is obsessed with fat people. It’s one of the oddest online fetishes that I’ve come across, outside of the Poli Board.
Posted by FatBaldandGray
Member since Jan 2019
93 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:34 pm to
It's not my fault at all. I consume an 800 calorie a day diet. I wash it down with a fifth of Johnny Walker Black and a 2 liter of Coke.

...and so far I've managed to dodge "The Roaches" of the liver.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15570 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:54 pm to
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Usually only eats one full meal a day (lunch), and sometimes fixes something small (like a sandwich or something) in the evenings. But he struggles to keep his weight down.


Ok. What about snacks and beverages?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31427 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:32 pm to
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Obesity is a disease. This is a fact.


Yea caused by consuming more energy than you burn
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3187 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:08 pm to
I find it amazing that people believe the United States, of all places, is intolerant of fat people… when 40 PERCENT of the population is obese.

Clearly we are quite tolerant of overindulgence.

Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
510 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Yea caused by consuming more energy than you burn


I don't think anyone here is arguing that fact. The part that a lot of people are overlooking and have stigmatized bigly is that hormones play a massive role on some peoples ability to control how much they eat. Think of it like a broken gas gauge in a vehicle. If your gas gauge is always showing that your almost out of gas, you'll feel compelled to stop and fill up the tank more often. Peoples brains are telling them they are hungry even when they have plenty of available fuel. Compounding that is the availability of small high caloric "snacks" that people consume....mostly in the form of sugar.

The good news for both the medical community and for people that struggle with their weight is that we are starting to see drugs come to market address the underlying issue. GLP1 meds are going to be the most significant drug to come about in the last 50 years.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31533 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Factors like genetics, hormones, sleep quality and even stigma can cause weight gain. Treating it, therefore, often requires more than just restricting or burning calories.


What a dumbassed syllogism. First, the factors in the first sentence are a fraction of the dietary and other lifestyle-choice factors. And sleep quality is largely controllable and related to same.

The conclusion they reach is reductionist and sets up a false dichotomy. While, on a simplistic level, yes CICO is paramount. But HOW you control CICO, and the overall health effects of shitty food and lack of movement, are the rub.

I’d estimate the following comprises 90% of the battle against obesity and related metabolic disorders:
Eliminate added sugar, reduce other carbs, cut bad fats, and eat a lot of complete proteins, and an easy way to make big strides toward those goals is to cut highly processed packaged foods. And at least walk some everyday.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76521 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:10 pm to
We’re definitely a sedentary society but also the quality of the food is shite. Even the non junk food is lower nutritional value than in the past.
Posted by Ironlung
Central Arkansas
Member since Nov 2017
1304 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:44 pm to
I have a friend who married the skinny girl in a fat family. He stayed in shape and she got fat after about 8 years, which upsets him.
She sites her family and says she has a genetic gland problem.
He says that's true, it's the gland in the middle of their face.
Posted by The Top G
Member since Jan 2023
139 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:00 pm to
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The part that a lot of people are overlooking and have stigmatized bigly is that hormones play a massive role on some peoples ability to control how much they eat. Think of it like a broken gas gauge in a vehicle. If your gas gauge is always showing that your almost out of gas, you'll feel compelled to stop and fill up the tank more often. Peoples brains are telling them they are hungry even when they have plenty of available fuel.


That's caused by bad food. Stop eating the bad foods and that stops. Human hormone production didn't evolve in one generation, to argue otherwise is absurd.

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The good news for both the medical community and for people that struggle with their weight is that we are starting to see drugs come to market address the underlying issue. GLP1 meds are going to be the most significant drug to come about in the last 50 years.


MOAR PHARMA!!!!
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