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re: Its just a License Plate Reader

Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:23 am to
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40205 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:23 am to
Between 11-14% of drivers in Louisiana have no automobile insurance.


Surely those plate readers can identify them and police can stop them and impound the vehicle right?


Except.
That.
Never.
Happens.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26429 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:26 am to
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Is the combining of technology used the tipping point, or is it the proliferation that is the tipping point?


There seems to be little control around who can access what amounts to a database that tracks everyone’s movement, why they access it, and what they use the data for…
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
26087 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:26 am to
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If you aren’t criticizing local govt officials at council meetings, you have nothing to fear
so don’t criticize your government and you’ll be fine. Got it
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19926 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:32 am to
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I don't really understand why you're all so upset about license plate readers when you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket all day long.



You are far from alone as far as being a technological moron in the world. If you can't grasp the fact that a cell phone's lication data can be turned off or simply left at home vs a camera you have zero control over then you are not only stupid but exactly the kind of naive dolt that is ripe for abuse by these systems.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19926 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Is the combining of technology used the tipping point, or is it the proliferation that is the tipping point?


Both actually.


quote:

Flock combined the 2 to become more of a passive system to do the same thing.


Except it's not passive, it not only captures data but attempts to distill and make decisions, basically packaging and automating functions for LEA's that shouldn't be automated without strict safeguards for the information.
Posted by tros3
Member since Dec 2022
5 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:45 am to
LPR cameras only provide a picture of the plate and vehicle. It does not provide registration information, nor insurance information.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11945 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:45 am to
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To be fair, you don’t own the license plate. The state does.

I've read this argument several times now, nearly verbatim. Where are y'all getting your orders from?

"The state owns my license plate heh guess I just have to accept tyranny huh"
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4221 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:56 am to
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Police should not be able to use them at a whim


at LEAST if they're gonna use them, and they've proven they can track habit patterns, normal routes, predict locations ...and arrest grandmas and people that weren't even in DC on JAN 6th...

there shouldn't be a single criminal left on the street in any major city anywhere.

the fact they haven't used this tech to actually solve the problems tells you that's not what it's for.
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1734 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:57 am to
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Police should not be able to use them at a whim.


Flock systems are heavily logged and audited. Why do you think they catch the ones misusing it in the first place?

I do think more protections and accountability can be placed in this space, but its not like all police officers just have free access to Flock data. A very small portion of investigative analyst and investigators have access to Flock data. Not all LEOs.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17019 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:58 am to
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Between 11-14% of drivers in Louisiana have no automobile insurance.

Surely those plate readers can identify them and police can stop them and impound the vehicle right?

Should we be calling for that?
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61750 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:01 am to
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A very small portion of investigative analyst and investigators have access to Flock data. Not all LEOs.
Yeah. And the Gestapo was under a 1% of the German military but still wrecked shite for millions.
Posted by Recognizable Poster
Geaux Tigers
Member since Mar 2026
1221 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:05 am to
I guess all I can say is that being on team idgaf about this issue, the reason I am team #idgaf is because I have so much on my mind from work to other things I have no mental capacity to worry about this issue. Terrible, I know.

And also we have had this at every intersection for 20 years where I live
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 9:06 am
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14967 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:05 am to
I’m getting to a point of real fatigue with everything the government does. Both sides in the end can’t handle the power entrusted to them with modern tech. They don’t even realize that their tactics and behavior drive the very danger they are afraid of…
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27194 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:09 am to
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Such a faggy response



First time reading a Chryso post?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86647 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:10 am to
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And also we have had this at every intersection for 20 years where I live


not paired with AI, you haven't

y'all really can't piece together why these are going up literally everywhere suddenly at the same time AI is being forced into everything?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17019 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:16 am to
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There seems to be little control around who can access what amounts to a database that tracks everyone’s movement, why they access it, and what they use the data for…

It’s the same control law enforcement agencies have been using for decades. All officers have access to NCIC and whatever state criminal database they use. All also have access to their state’s driver’s license and vehicle registration database.

They also have an assortment of supplemental databases used for separate queries. Flock is one of those supplemental systems that the agencies subscribe to. All of those systems have some form of tracking system for who used it and for what purpose. Agencies are required to ensure they routinely audit usage or they lose access. And they have policies that call for termination when used for personal reasons.

So there is abundance of concern from these administrators about how officers use these systems and there are incentives to look for improper usage. Agencies want to get rid of bad officers. They can then hire cheaper officers they can attempt to mold to be better officers. Their jurisdictions are also off the hook for paying lifetime pensions.

For decades officers have been terminated for misusing their entrusted roles and often it is because they misuse NCIC and their local DMV data.

But I don’t think any of that truth changes the growing movement to be outraged over this new tool. I’m still open minded to whatever else might be in my blind spot.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 10:17 am
Posted by Recognizable Poster
Geaux Tigers
Member since Mar 2026
1221 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:16 am to
I don't know shite about this subject and will defer to your expertise.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2750 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:17 am to
You sure are scared of a license plate camera.

Do you realize that you’re recorded on camera about 100 times per day?

And you’re carrying a phone that listens to you 24/7 and tracks your location and internet usage?

Grow up people. This is the world we live in.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86647 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:19 am to
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I don't know shite about this subject and will defer to your expertise.


It doesn't require expertise to know:

1) AI has taken off in the last few years and being forced onto all of us

and

2) Flock cameras are being put up everywhere

It doesn't require much brain power to know that the 2 things are related
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86647 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:20 am to
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Do you realize that you’re recorded on camera about 100 times per day?

And you’re carrying a phone that listens to you 24/7 and tracks your location and internet usage?


then why are the Flock cameras being put up everywhere?

if they are already tracking all of us, why are they so necessary?

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