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re: Italy numbers vs USA numbers at same time frame in dealing with the virus

Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Italy has sooooooooooooooooo many old people.

And that whole double-kiss thing.

Oh, and the deal with the Chinese devil in regards to trade.

And poor health care.


And they have marinara running through their veins and not blood.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67008 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:11 pm to
Someone had mentioned about two different strains or variants and Italy has the more deadly one, whereas we have the more mild one.
I've only heard that once, so that's for what it's worth. But, to me, it's the most plausible explanation I've heard
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:12 pm to
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And?



Ummm...

Hot chicks, great food, amazing cars???
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15252 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:13 pm to
The videos I've seen over there everyone has these thick arse beards as well.

That can't be easy to keep clean and virus free. I shaved my big arse beard down to stubble to help cleanliness.

It was recommended. Maybe that's why Iran is getting trounced as well. They are hairy as hell also.

Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7245 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Can we please stop the "but we're a week behind" posts?


11 days to be correct.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:15 pm to
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BUT WE'RE A WEEK BEHIND THEM SO EXPECT MUCH DEATH NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!



That's not the point, Oppenheimer. The point is that the U.S. took those precautions because of the numbers coming out of Italy. And that's a good thing. There is no reason not to continue our current precautions for another week or so pursuant to the CDC/Presidential guidelines.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25356 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:16 pm to
I can't think of any western society more huggy and kissy and handsy than the Italians. And crowded, And live with momma and papa. And the other factors noted. Perfect storm there.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74728 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:16 pm to
We currently have a 1.23% CFR


Italy is at 9%

I’m sorry but the idea that we are on the same trajectory as Italy is asinine
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:18 pm to
They also have quite a few Chinese workers. No doubt a lot of them traveled back to China for the new year.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21424 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:18 pm to
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11 days to be correct.

Why? Because we arbitrarily selected a day where the totals were similar and assumed everything from there was supposed to run congruent?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35541 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Someone had mentioned about two different strains or variants


L-type (aggressive)
S-type (mild)

I've read/heard little more than that and that if you get one you're immune to it and the other.

And something about videos of something being misted all over Wuhan that "could have been" the S-type to mass inoculate. Sounds like Ludlum stuff but so does everything now.
Posted by Topo Chico
Houston
Member since Apr 2019
448 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:19 pm to
Thats not an appropriate way to compare data. You need to normalize to a certain infection point (say the day when the countries each reached 150 infections) and then plot the rates of infection starting from there. If you do that, you will see that our rate of infection from patient 150 and forward matches Italy's almost identically and is even starting to exceed.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:21 pm to
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BUT WE'RE A WEEK BEHIND THEM SO EXPECT MUCH DEATH NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!


You mad, baw?

Or just trying to pull off the rare and difficult, sarcastic all caps?
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
5742 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:21 pm to
We also have 300 million more people
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
94034 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:22 pm to
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Topo Chico


Yeah...well...you're disgusting to drink...so...THERE!
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78698 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:22 pm to
Waterloo is so much better!
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7245 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:22 pm to
As of right now we have 278 deaths. They had 631 deaths.
Per the same time frame Italy had 10,049 cases and we now have 22,177 cases. The days not over.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6387 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:23 pm to
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Thats not an appropriate way to compare data. You need to normalize to a certain infection point (say the day when the countries each reached 150 infections) and then plot the rates of infection starting from there. If you do that, you will see that our rate of infection from patient 150 and forward matches Italy's almost identically and is even starting to exceed.



Rate of infection means jack shite right now because of increase in testing
The US will lead the world in testing by end of the week
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
94034 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:23 pm to
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As of right now we have 278 deaths. They had 631 deaths.
Per the same time frame Italy had 10,049 cases and we now have 22,177 cases. The days not over.



Yes, but now break that down per capita.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46609 posts
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:24 pm to
Testing or not. We’d have a frick ton more deaths if our path was following Italy’s. It’s not.
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