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Posted on 3/21/20 at 2:21 pm to Clark W Griswold
quote:that is irrelevant. There is a much high percentage of Chinese workers in and around Italy.
The majority of them relied on public transportation and lived in more clustered communities that interacted with each other more.
China's Belt and Road plan
Posted on 3/21/20 at 2:22 pm to prplhze2000
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Lombardy is a lot like Mississippi or north Louisiana. It's not like Rome where everyone is on top of each other
^^^^Hasn’t been to Milan!
Posted on 3/21/20 at 6:35 pm to stout
Not to tag on your thread but the Johns Hopkins tracker says 300+ dead
Posted on 3/21/20 at 6:44 pm to SundayFunday
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:23 pm to Scruffy
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Because YNWA would absolutely sacrifice you, your family, and most other individuals for political purposes, such as getting Trump out of office.
There.
It.
Is.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:26 pm to stout
Italy seems small and crowded compared to the US.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 8:04 pm to Topo Chico
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Thats not an appropriate way to compare data. You need to normalize to a certain infection point (say the day when the countries each reached 150 infections) and then plot the rates of infection starting from there. If you do that, you will see that our rate of infection from patient 150 and forward matches Italy's almost identically and is even starting to exceed.
Is that rate of actual infection or exposure, illness onset, or date confirmed by testing? And were daily test quantities at same levels? And were those using same timing?
For test quantities CDC had switched to date they received specimen from date specimen taken from patient when they were confirming all cases before the 14th which didn't make sense to me for something published (more internal on how quickly they were reviewed). I did like the CDC trying to track by illness onset especially with so many existing cases being tested a week or 2 after onset. WHO just reports net changes of totals and for US that had meant no changes on weekends since CDC wasn't updating confirmed case totals on weekends. It also meant it was completely based on when tests confirmed by CDC and not when patient tested or when illness & symptoms started for newly confirmed cases.
Collin County's 1 death so far wasn't tested until he died while already in hospital for existing conditions (not sure if they decided if existing or virus killed him), and he wasn't part of their counts until he was tested after he died. It seems likely he was sick for a while, but i have wondered if they will figure out when or treat as both newly infected/illness onset and death at exact same time or death before confirmed test (though i think it was same day and reported same day). How reports handle dates of this stuff including total daily tests done wont matter as much looking back afterwards but right back & during testing ramp up it can affect comparisons.
I keep meaning to looking at Hopkins on a computer to see if they offer additional ways to sort all their data.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 8:17 pm to stout
The per capita is amazing. Last check Italy was like 590 per million and the US was at about 60
Posted on 3/21/20 at 8:17 pm to TulaneLSU
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If so than the comparison is valid
Ugh
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:16 pm to Walking the Earth
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wailing
Don’t use words you don’t understand.
And apparently you can’t answer the question
Posted on 3/21/20 at 10:47 pm to ellishughtiger
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One can probably get a villa in Positano for pretty cheap when CV is all said in done.
If you're Italian, sure.
If you're European, yes, with obstacles to navigate.
Non European Union, get out the cash, and foster thick pockets, but can be done.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:26 pm to YNWA
USA
340 Deaths
26,747 infected 12am EST 3/2220
Italy Infections at same time frame. 10,149
Deaths. 631
340 Deaths
26,747 infected 12am EST 3/2220
Italy Infections at same time frame. 10,149
Deaths. 631
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:28 pm to YNWA
So Italy had half the cases but double the deaths. That’s interesting.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 11:39 pm to Midtiger farm
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We are now 2nd in the world in test per capita and will be first in a few days
No we aren’t and no we won’t be
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:17 am to stout
We still are having more deaths than I would like to see. But thank God we are not trending towards Italy. I think the US will bounce back stronger from this.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:21 am to YNWA
As already pointed out to you, we also have 5x the population
Posted on 3/22/20 at 12:58 am to YipSkiddlyDooo
To the 2 idiots who downvoted my last post. We are nowhere near top of tests administered per capita
We aren’t even top 2 in total tests and we are much bigger than those who have tested more than we have. As well as those who have tested less.
We aren’t even top 2 in total tests and we are much bigger than those who have tested more than we have. As well as those who have tested less.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 1:00 am to stout
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 1:03 am
Posted on 3/22/20 at 1:09 am to Upperdecker
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US took preventative steps much sooner
That is my thought too. Italy got hit hard and was unprepared and it has savaged their health care system. We have taken measures to slow down the spread for almost two weeks now. I’m sure hundreds of thousands of Americans will get sick but hopefully not all at the same time
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