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re: Italian vs. Sicilian

Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:07 pm to
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Sicily was invaded by Arabs and North Africans in the early Middle Ages, so they tend to have darker skin than mainland Italians.


I found the guy who hasn’t seen True Romance.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:07 pm to
And pubic hair on top of their heads. Courtesy of the Moors.
Posted by mingoswamp
St. Louis
Member since Aug 2017
968 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:08 pm to
Their tennis shoes
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4741 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:13 pm to
My FIL always referred to himself as Italian. He asked me to look into his ancestry and I found his grandmother born on a boat from Sicily. You should've seen the shock on his face when the DNA profile was African, Mongolian, and a very small amount of European. It sure as hell explained a lot to me. I still chuckle when he says integration ruined public schools, I guess he doesn't know he went to the wrong school.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:15 pm to
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A lot of Sicilians immigrated to Louisiana in the late 19th/early 20th century.


Grandmother's family was one of them.

Can't say what the difference is, though, because I only know the Sicilian side. I can tell you that the Sicilians in my family were known to be fiery individuals.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:15 pm to
Scilians are a lot more trashy than Italians
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6362 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:21 pm to
My coworkers northern Italian grandmother Is super racist toward Sicilians. She views them as Africans whom she’s also prejudice against
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:25 pm to
About half of my great grandparents came over from Palermo, Sicily...we always referred to ourselves simply as “Italians”
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:30 pm to
One is refined, one is scum.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:31 pm to
DNA studies have shown that the Sicilians are most closely related to Greeks and the influence of Moors or Normans or other Italian groups is not as significant as given in the comments in this thread.

This makes sense because Sicily was colonized by Greeks and the Romans barely settled in the island, it remained a Greek island in religion and language up until the Norman invasions when they were forced to convert to Roman Catholicism and adopt Latin. Rulers of Sicily; Moors, Normans, Spanish just merely replaced rulers.

There are some interesting exceptions especially related to Louisiana. Many of the Sicilians who came to Louisiana were Arbereshe which were Albanians who lived in Sicily and Southern Italy.
Posted by michael corleone
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:35 pm to
Sicily was also invaded by the Normands and Vikings. There was also a Jewish population before the Normands. I am full Sicilian. My grandfather’s sister and mother had light hair, fair skin and blue eyes. I have plenty of blond hair , blue eyed cousins. Of course, everyone is short. Just depends on the town your family came from. If it’s in the interior mountains, less likely to have the Arab skin and eyes. Interior mountain families look Greek or have the fair skin/blue eyes. Families from Calabria and the Sicilian coastal towns look a lot alike. Culture wise, I would say that Sicilian families are a little country that Italian families. Manners / protocol is important , as it is to manny country people. Extended family, even to third cousins , is considered a close relative and usually part of gatherings. Food is more diverse bc if the influences. Food is also a bit simpler. Sauces/gravy may be a bit sweeter and/or piquant.
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
4429 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:40 pm to
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The Moors did so much frickin’


I thought it was The Moops? I was playing Trivial Pursuit with a kid in a bubble a few years ago and this question came up.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18515 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:14 pm to
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A lot of Sicilians immigrated to Louisiana in the late 19th/early 20th century.


Guilty as charged. We Sicilians are just here for the party. We come bearing wine and cannoli's.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:27 pm to
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In America, Sicilians put sugar in their red gravy. Italians leave it tangy.
Neither eat red gravy.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1783 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:31 pm to
I am 100% or nearly Sicilian. My 4 grandparents hail from Palermo (2) Cefalu and Catania. All came through Ellis island as Children in the early 1900’s. Red sauce is definitely sweetened with sugar and definitely some mob ties back in the old country and even a few here in the US a generation or Two ago. Most Italians at that time were peasants but the Sicilians were real peasants. Mostly dirt poor. That’s why the came to the US after the industrial revolution.
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1563 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:33 pm to
We call it red gravy at my house.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:40 pm to
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In America, Sicilians put sugar in their red gravy


Guess we are Sicilian
Posted by MimosaRouge
Member since Jun 2020
373 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:42 pm to


Also Iron Eyes Cody is Sicilian from Vermillion Parish
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14094 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:58 pm to
I know..I know, one is an island.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:19 pm to
Why are Greeks dark
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