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OleWar
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re: Italian vs. Sicilian

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Why are Greeks dark


The term is olive skin and I believe the Sun is the culprit.


Boo Krewe
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Turkey invaded Greece


Mizz-SEC
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If you have Sicilian heritage, do you take offense if someone assumes you’re Italian?


I do not but I had a friend who was Sicilian and he would chafe if called him Italian.

The vibe I got is Sicilains view themselves as an Italian's Italian. A better cut.


jeffsdad
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If he only chaffed, you are a lucky man.


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OleWar
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re: Italian vs. Sicilian
Turks invaded Anatolia, Greece, and the rest of the Balkans. True Turks look more like orientals, look at Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.

ETA: All of these groups of people who converted to Islam eventually became known as Turks.

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Boo Krewe
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Turkish women like Maria menonous are fire


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sand mountainDvalues
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re: Italian vs. Sicilian
From Napoli on south, it’s basically North Africa.


Crow Pie
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A lot of Sicilians immigrated to Louisiana in the late 19th/early 20th century.
Yes we did


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LCboi
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Micheal Corleone

Great explanation. My Grandmother was a war bride, was Sardinian but late teens early Adult life grew up in Roma. She was the best cook you’ve ever meet. Made her on pasta everything fresh. A firecracker. Who got loud and would tell you Exactly what she was think about you whether you liked it or not. She hated Germans more than the Devil. She was an incredible lady who struggled early in life and came here to created her version of the American dream. I miss her daily.
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Check out True Romance and Christopher Walken's description

Great movie, but it's actually Dennis Hopper's description!


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re: Italian vs. Sicilian
Sicilians are just light skinned black people


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cbree88
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re: Italian vs. Sicilian
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From Napoli on south, it’s basically North Africa.


People from North Africa are Arabs, not black people.

Black people are sub-Saharan African people.


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Muthsera
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My great-greats were Sicilians that immigrated to New Orleans in the late 19th Century.

They assimilated extremely quickly, they were mean as snakes, and like any self-respecting Sicilian family, they had cousins that allegedly had mafia ties.


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HeadSlash
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re: Italian vs. Sicilian
Sicilian because that's where the family is from.


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HempHead
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People from North Africa are Arabs, not black people.



Outside of Egypt, they're really Berbers/Maghrebi. I think you'd piss off a Tunisian if you called him Arab.


christiger3
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re: Italian vs. Sicilian
My wife and I are both of Sicilian descent. We took a trip to Sicily and then to the mainland. Even the Sicilians living on the mainland don’t like to refer to themselves as Italians since Sicily has its own heritage. Much like how New Orleanians will refer to themselves as such before Louisianians.


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Lima Whiskey
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Sicilians are swarthy


Tangent

Historically we used that term to describe people who tan. So they may be pale in the winter but dark in the summer.

The French and the Germans are generally swarthy, for example.
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The French and the Germans are generally swarthy, for example.



Benny Franklin:

Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

24. Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.


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Lima Whiskey
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Rulers of Sicily; Moors, Normans, Spanish just merely replaced rulers.


This is something that De Lampedusa talks about in The Leopard


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