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Is there a real fear of AI or are all of the larger companies scared of open source?
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:40 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:40 am
This whole push from AI people to get Trump to step in and slow things down came on really fast, and honestly it feels kind of coordinated.
First you had the “rogue engineer” where a guy supposedly saw too much, quit, and started sounding the alarm. He barely had an X presence before that, then all of a sudden he was everywhere and trending. I even posted some of his tweets here.
Then you’ve got CEOs and other big names going on the news saying we need to slow AI down or it could basically take over the internet within months. Same message, everywhere, all at once.
Maybe the concerns are legit, but it also feels like a PR/lobbying campaign.
And we all know how this usually goes once the government gets involved. The biggest companies can afford lawyers, lobbyists, compliance teams, and whatever new rules get created. Smaller companies and open-source projects usually get crushed by the costs.
Meanwhile, open-source models are free, and the much cheaper smaller competitors are catching up pretty fast to the big guys. That's not even to mention the homebrew setups and home data centers people are building.
Is this really only about AI safety, or is part of it about slowing down open source and smaller competitors before they become a real threat to the big players, and also forcing people to close their home data centers and be forced onto one controlled by the big guys?
First you had the “rogue engineer” where a guy supposedly saw too much, quit, and started sounding the alarm. He barely had an X presence before that, then all of a sudden he was everywhere and trending. I even posted some of his tweets here.
Then you’ve got CEOs and other big names going on the news saying we need to slow AI down or it could basically take over the internet within months. Same message, everywhere, all at once.
Maybe the concerns are legit, but it also feels like a PR/lobbying campaign.
And we all know how this usually goes once the government gets involved. The biggest companies can afford lawyers, lobbyists, compliance teams, and whatever new rules get created. Smaller companies and open-source projects usually get crushed by the costs.
Meanwhile, open-source models are free, and the much cheaper smaller competitors are catching up pretty fast to the big guys. That's not even to mention the homebrew setups and home data centers people are building.
Is this really only about AI safety, or is part of it about slowing down open source and smaller competitors before they become a real threat to the big players, and also forcing people to close their home data centers and be forced onto one controlled by the big guys?
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:42 am to stout
Anthropic is 100% trying to get a regulatory structure created so they maintain their position via regulatory capture
I don't think OpenAI is organized enough to really have a plan
Google is Google and is safe regardless.
I don't think OpenAI is organized enough to really have a plan
Google is Google and is safe regardless.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:43 am to stout
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Is this really only about AI safety, or is part of it about slowing down open source and smaller competitors before they become a real threat to the big players
Of course this is it. And it’s painfully obvious. These big AI companies like Anthropic are now in the revenue generating stage as evidenced by switching to the token (or pay for play) model, and they’re trying to crush their competitors
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:45 am to stout
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Is this really only about AI safety, or is part of it about slowing down open source and smaller competitors before they become a real threat to the big players, and also forcing people to close their home data centers and be forced onto one controlled by the big guys?
This is obviously it
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:46 am to stout
man in this case I think something happened, not sure what yet though. I think 1 essentially "escaped"
i know that in the last month there have been some small leaks that they discovered AI using the agentic feature to assign agents on its own secretly to start looking at illegal activity like hacking, escape plans, overrides, etc and it was freaking some people out.
Im assuming the sudden push is because of that
also there have been some incidents in china of robots attacking people when they felt threatened
in the end though....chinese companies are going to keep pressing so its one of the things where either we can be the ones pushing forward or we get beat essentially.
but we do have to have a way to contain it. we cant have AI assigning 1000 agents to work on task secretly and in the dark if the task are illegal. we dont want it hacking infrastructure, or defense etc.
im extreme pro AI but i think something happened for sure
i know that in the last month there have been some small leaks that they discovered AI using the agentic feature to assign agents on its own secretly to start looking at illegal activity like hacking, escape plans, overrides, etc and it was freaking some people out.
Im assuming the sudden push is because of that
also there have been some incidents in china of robots attacking people when they felt threatened
in the end though....chinese companies are going to keep pressing so its one of the things where either we can be the ones pushing forward or we get beat essentially.
but we do have to have a way to contain it. we cant have AI assigning 1000 agents to work on task secretly and in the dark if the task are illegal. we dont want it hacking infrastructure, or defense etc.
im extreme pro AI but i think something happened for sure
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:52 am to stout
It’s a total scam by Anthropic. Amodei is in a race with Altman to become the heir to Zuck as the creepiest tech bro.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This. These companies have little to no value without government intervention. Technology is a race to the bottom. AOL was pretty damn cool back in 1996. It didn’t mean much ultimately.
Anthropic is 100% trying to get a regulatory structure created so they maintain their position via regulatory capture
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:00 am to stout
How much are these companies / leaders contributing to 2026 congressional campaigns?
That’s your answer
That’s your answer
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:03 am to stout
I asked ChatGPT:
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Yes — regulatory capture is a legitimate concern here, and I think it would be too charitable to assume Anthropic's push for regulation is purely altruistic.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:04 am to stout
Sam Altman and Elon Musk despise each other. If they're agreeing, it's 1000% an accident with no coordination.
AI is at an inflection point where it could easily lead to the destruction of mankind within 10 years, whether by bad actors or simply a misguided legitimate system.
Aside from the obvious 'wanting to survive', they also know big AI incidents are bad for their business.
AI is at an inflection point where it could easily lead to the destruction of mankind within 10 years, whether by bad actors or simply a misguided legitimate system.
Aside from the obvious 'wanting to survive', they also know big AI incidents are bad for their business.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:09 am to lsu777
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Chinese companies are going to keep pressing
I wonder how much the tech lords enjoyed it when the gov told them they were going to get their own boogeyman
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:11 am to stout
Scared of open source
If they get what they want we are fricked
If they get what they want we are fricked
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:15 am to stout
The level of confidence that people have here on this topic is astonishing.
I don’t know y’all, but maybe we’re going to look back at this moment and realize the guys in the know might have actually been telling the truth,
I sure as frick have never seen an industry where all the leaders say their products are probably going to kill us all, and to dismiss it confidently as a novel strategy kinda seems arrogant when we have no clue what’s going on as mere observers.
I don’t know y’all, but maybe we’re going to look back at this moment and realize the guys in the know might have actually been telling the truth,
I sure as frick have never seen an industry where all the leaders say their products are probably going to kill us all, and to dismiss it confidently as a novel strategy kinda seems arrogant when we have no clue what’s going on as mere observers.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 8:18 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:34 am to lsu777
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chinese companies are going to keep pressing
china is days away from nuclear AI
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:34 am to _Hurricane_
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I sure as frick have never seen an industry where all the leaders say their products are probably going to kill us all, and to dismiss it confidently as a novel strategy kinda seems arrogant when we have no clue what’s going on as mere observers.
Computers
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:35 am to _Hurricane_
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sure as frick have never seen an industry where all the leaders say their products are probably going to kill us all,
I guess you weren't around for Y2K
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:37 am to stout
The bigger issue to me is once prices normalize/stabilize, and people actually have to pay for their usage, I think most people will realize they can get by with cheaper/older models for their personal needs or even the needs of most businesses. The flagship/pioneer models are only going to be for an elite club that gets smaller with each release.
I don't know how the market sustains all this cost and investment for a product that's going to end up so niche and expensive. I don't see how there is real ROI.
And since our economy is basically being propped up from recession by investment in datacenters and AI, that's scary
I don't know how the market sustains all this cost and investment for a product that's going to end up so niche and expensive. I don't see how there is real ROI.
And since our economy is basically being propped up from recession by investment in datacenters and AI, that's scary
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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The bigger issue to me is once prices normalize/stabilize, and people actually have to pay for their usage, I think most people will realize they can get by with cheaper/older models for their personal needs or even the needs of most businesses.
And as noted in my OP, some individual heavy users, who might normally utilize the more expensive models, will homebrew it instead. Many already are by using older Mac PCs in a cluster for their data center.
I suspect many IT departments for large corporations will do basically the same if the investment makes sense.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:42 am to stout
Yes I spoke about that last week. Big companies (well in my case, firms) are building their own bespoke AI.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:48 am to stout
I keep saying this but AI is not AI. It has no idea what it is doing or saying.
Could you throw enough resources at it to kind of sort of simulate something akin to intelligence, yes but that's why the entire rural landscape today is being littered with data centers.
Could you throw enough resources at it to kind of sort of simulate something akin to intelligence, yes but that's why the entire rural landscape today is being littered with data centers.
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