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Is there a more lame excuse for obesity in America than "food deserts"?
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:26 pm
I have actually seen people argue that the reason people are obese is because they literally have nowhere to shop that offers healthy food such as vegetables and fruit.
They have done research on this shite that thoroughly debunks such a claim
They have done research on this shite that thoroughly debunks such a claim
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Obesity levels don’t drop when low-income city neighborhoods have or get grocery stores. A 2011 study published in the Archives of Internal Medicine showed no connection between access to grocery stores and more healthful diets using 15 years’ worth of data from more than 5,000 people in five cities. One 2012 study showed that the local food environment did not influence the diet of middle-school children in California. Another 2012 study, published in Social Science and Medicine, used national data on store availability and a multiyear study of grade-schoolers to show no connection between food environment and diet. And this month, a study in Health Affairs examined one of the Philadelphia grocery stores that opened with help from the Fresh Food Financing Initiative. The authors found that the store had no significant impact on reducing obesity or increasing daily fruit and vegetable consumption in the four years since it opened.
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Sadler, Gilliland, and Arku examined the impact of a retail-based intervention in a socioeconomically disadvantaged area of Flint…their research found the introduction of a grocery store in the area did not have a significant impact on fruit and vegetable consumption. Further, there was an increase in the amount of prepared and fast foods consumed during the 17 months the grocery store was open.
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You can find fruit and vegetables at Walmart for crying out loud. It’s because these people don’t have enough motivation or understanding that fast food is considerably more expensive over time than buying groceries at the store. I’m akso starting to think less young people know how to cook
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
When it’s more difficult to purchase an item there will be a decrease in the purchasing of that item. Not hard to understand and your anger over this is weird IMO. You need to calm down.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Obesity among Blacks and Southern Whites can be attributed to the same cause, IMO - a cultural culinary inheritance that had a basis of hard, agricultural labor in intense subtroptical clime. You can eat like a country boy with few problems if you bust arse outside for 12 hours a day, but when you keep the same eating habits while doing sedentary office work, you will end up being a fatass.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:32 pm to Cold Drink
But it isn’t more difficult
“[Dr. Helen] Lee also notes in her study that, on closer inspection, food deserts don’t actually exist in the U.S., at least not as a national problem—on average, poor neighborhoods have more grocery stores than wealthier neighborhoods. Even before Obama’s Healthy Food Financing Initiative was announced in 2010, studies suggested that the food desert explanation for obesity wasn’t right. A report from Department of Agriculture researchers presented to Congress in 2009 also showed more grocery stores in poor neighborhoods. In 2012, USDA researchers crunched the data again and found once more that low-income neighborhoods had more—not fewer—grocery stores.”
“[Dr. Helen] Lee also notes in her study that, on closer inspection, food deserts don’t actually exist in the U.S., at least not as a national problem—on average, poor neighborhoods have more grocery stores than wealthier neighborhoods. Even before Obama’s Healthy Food Financing Initiative was announced in 2010, studies suggested that the food desert explanation for obesity wasn’t right. A report from Department of Agriculture researchers presented to Congress in 2009 also showed more grocery stores in poor neighborhoods. In 2012, USDA researchers crunched the data again and found once more that low-income neighborhoods had more—not fewer—grocery stores.”
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don’t see why that’s strange to you. That’s a major factor in my obesity and a problem for a lot of people.
ETA: This is embarrassing. I thought you were talking about desserts.
ETA: This is embarrassing. I thought you were talking about desserts.
This post was edited on 8/4/18 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:38 pm to Cold Drink
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When it’s more difficult to purchase an item there will be a decrease in the purchasing of that item.
Somebody needs to learn the concept of supply and demand.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:40 pm to Cold Drink
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When it’s more difficult to purchase an item there will be a decrease in the purchasing of that item.
Except that it was proven that there is no increase in consumption of alternatives when they become more locally available.
Some of you people are damn near illiterate.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:45 pm to HempHead
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You can eat like a country boy with few problems if you bust arse outside for 12 hours a day,
What does flatulence have to do with this? Why waste them outside?
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:47 pm to HempHead
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Obesity among Blacks and Southern Whites can be attributed to the same cause, IMO - a cultural culinary inheritance that had a basis of hard, agricultural labor in intense subtroptical clime. You can eat like a country boy with few problems if you bust arse outside for 12 hours a day, but when you keep the same eating habits while doing sedentary office work, you will end up being a fatass.
Never thought about it from this perspective. Great point.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:49 pm to schwartzy
quote:When I have food at my house (groceries), I eat all day. $200 worth of groceries lasts just me about a week and a half tops
fast food is considerably more expensive over time than buying groceries at the store
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I had three bowls of chocolate mint ice cream tonight. Not obese.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 11:56 pm to Jim Rockford
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I had three bowls of chocolate mint ice cream tonight. Not obese.
I eat a king size pack of peanut m&ms per day.
One of those ziplock bags of 10 serving of mint m&ms is gone in 2 nights.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 12:00 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:02 am to Ripley
How does that explain women?
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
“Healthy food is too expensive.” Also, if someone’s diet is garbage anyway it is still better to cut calories while still eating garbage rather than just saying frick it all together. Just eating only “healthy” foods won’t make a person lose either. Most of it is cognitive dissonance because once they do their research they won’t be able to blame anyone but themselves then when it comes down to needing to do that they blame factors they feel can’t be changed by them physically wrong with them
It’s not that there’s nowhere to buy healthy food, it’s convienience. When your cutting calories, especially early on people don’t know how to make the right choices on the spot and have to preplan everything. There are also of course less options for eating out and fast food. 90% of the menu will be off limits. Then what is left is the same as everywhere or not very good. Though you do have to accept that less fat and sugar are already going to limit your satisfaction.
The main problem is we don’t know the difference between being satisfied and overeating. Most overeat every single time they have a meal. We also treat ourselves and call it a normal option (but hey that’s what most places serve) so it becomes normal to us and eating something basic becomes boring. We shouldn’t be eating triple stacked loaded burgers and over seasoned and buttered vegetables every day (boohoo). The culture of being delicate about feelings is only really storing them for later when the person obtains weight related illnesses, worse self esteem down the road, early death, you name it.
Put ads up not showing bullshite crash diet scams but the weight loss results from cutting simple things out and also blaming the parents passing down their toxic eating habits to their kids. People don’t change when given options, but when they have no other
It’s fricking ridiculous in the south. Mall of Louisiana has half of their clothing stores solely dedicated to whales
It’s not that there’s nowhere to buy healthy food, it’s convienience. When your cutting calories, especially early on people don’t know how to make the right choices on the spot and have to preplan everything. There are also of course less options for eating out and fast food. 90% of the menu will be off limits. Then what is left is the same as everywhere or not very good. Though you do have to accept that less fat and sugar are already going to limit your satisfaction.
The main problem is we don’t know the difference between being satisfied and overeating. Most overeat every single time they have a meal. We also treat ourselves and call it a normal option (but hey that’s what most places serve) so it becomes normal to us and eating something basic becomes boring. We shouldn’t be eating triple stacked loaded burgers and over seasoned and buttered vegetables every day (boohoo). The culture of being delicate about feelings is only really storing them for later when the person obtains weight related illnesses, worse self esteem down the road, early death, you name it.
Put ads up not showing bullshite crash diet scams but the weight loss results from cutting simple things out and also blaming the parents passing down their toxic eating habits to their kids. People don’t change when given options, but when they have no other
It’s fricking ridiculous in the south. Mall of Louisiana has half of their clothing stores solely dedicated to whales
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:08 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I’ll admit that I’m about 10-15 lbs overweight because I eat sugar like a fricking heroin addict.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 12:09 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:30 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
And our top story tonight: obesity in America - poor decisions may actually play a role in America’s growing problem. More on this at 11...
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:30 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
You can’t buy fruit with your welfare card all you can buy is t bone steaks and crab legs
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:35 am to Prominentwon
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I eat sugar like a fricking heroin addict.
That's gross baw
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:10 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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food deserts
Always a dumb excuse for fat poor people. The same group who thinks poor people aren’t capable of going to the DMV for an ID card also think poor people can’t figure out how to eat canned or frozen vegetables.
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