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re: Is there a more lame excuse for obesity in America than "food deserts"?
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
You're wrong!
Gravy is gonna be in such good shape one NBR gets it's grocery store.
You'll see
Gravy is gonna be in such good shape one NBR gets it's grocery store.
You'll see
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 8:22 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:33 am to Num1TigerSpam
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“Healthy food is too expensive.”
This is bullshite. When my diet is right, I save money.
Prepared foods are more expensive. If you’re fat and too lazy to prepare your own meals, you’ll pay more for prepared healthy foods, and stay fat because you’re lazy.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 8:38 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:42 am to DawgGONIT
At this point it doesn’t matter what the food pyramid looks like. Fatties are going to keep eating junk bc it tastes good. Simple as that.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:43 am to Cold Drink
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When it’s more difficult to purchase an item there will be a decrease in the purchasing of that item. Not hard to understand and your anger over this is weird IMO. You need to calm down.
When chips and fruit punch taste better for breakfast, than oatmeal or milk and your mother on AFDC doesn't get up till 10AM, you have chips and fruit punch for breakfast on the way to school.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:07 am to biglego
Correct. These people aren't thinking about the food pyramid. If you mention "food pyramid," they start looking around for actual pyramid shaped pile of food.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Laziness and a lack of self control is the reason for obesity.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:15 am to HempHead
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Obesity among Blacks and Southern Whites can be attributed to the same cause, IMO - a cultural culinary inheritance that had a basis of hard, agricultural labor in intense subtroptical clime. You can eat like a country boy with few problems if you bust arse outside for 12 hours a day, but when you keep the same eating habits while doing sedentary office work, you will end up being a fatass.
to an extent, but it's primarily this
the amount of fricking soda i see poor people buying at my culturally diverse shopping markets is insane
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:19 am to Strannix
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I was in the store yesterday, it’s incredible how many obese people there are and what they have in their carts, tons of precooked frozen shite. Soda, chips, sweets, all shite.
oh it's amazing. i am legit curious what the bloodwork of these people would look like
now, admittedly last night i had cookies, a cupcake/ice cream for my saturday night cheat meal dessert, so i didn't look that great, but i was obviously not buying sustainable meals.
the amount of incredibly obese people buying frozen dinners is literally staggering to me. the soda isn't that mind-blowing, but the frozen dinners? utterly insane
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Inactivity is to blame as much or more than food choices. Both occupationally and recreationally.
Perhaps. But you have to be REALLY active to make up for our food choices.
If a person needs 2000 calories to maintain their current weight and starts running 4 miles a day, 7 days a week, they can add one restaurant slice of pizza to their diet. That's not a lot of food for what is often perceived as a lot of physical activity.
By far the biggest issue is the consumption of high calorie foods. Though I will accept the argument that copious amounts of sugar leads to lethargy and irrational decision making leading to more and more poor choices when it comes to food, activity, and health.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:27 am to Ripley
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Great point.
I'm not positive it is. The food itself has changed considerably over the past 100 years.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:42 am to StringedInstruments
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If a person needs 2000 calories to maintain their current rate and starts running 4 miles a day, 7 days a week, they can add one restaurant slice of pizza to their diet.
No.
I get what you’re saying but you went too overboard. I’m in decent shape and I can burn about 300-350 calories on a 2 mile run. At 28 miles a week (4 miles times seven days), that totals out to about 4200-4900 burned calories (probably more because the longer you are in caloric burn, the more efficient it becomes). That’s about two days worth of calories for most people, not a single slice of pizza.
And that doesn’t take into account the increased metabolism that will accompany cardiovascular exercise. In addition to the direct calories burned, people experience increased metabolism after regular exercise which allows them to burn more calories in a normal day.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:45 am to HempHead
Judging from the blimps that I personally know, it's matter of sitting in a recliner in front of a tv, with cell phone in lap, and snacking on shite … for hours a day.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:58 am to StringedInstruments
I agree, it’s calorie dense foods most readily available. Our bodies do not know that we are fat or skinny, only to maintain what we have, homeostasis. It’s not normal to be hungry or in a calorie deficit, so our bodies tell us to eat, and we calorie dense foods, and gain weight. Then our bodies make us maintain that weight.
It is worth stating, and I bet that most people could not count there dalily calorie intake with out nutritional data to 100 cal of accuracy. If you happen to be over every day, that means you’re gaining 10 pounds a year.
It is worth stating, and I bet that most people could not count there dalily calorie intake with out nutritional data to 100 cal of accuracy. If you happen to be over every day, that means you’re gaining 10 pounds a year.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:02 am to Antonio Moss
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’m in decent shape and I can burn about 300-350 calories on a 2 mile run.
You sure about that?
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You burn about 100 calories for every mile you run. But as intensity increases, so does calorie burning—up to 10 calories per minute per mile. That may sound like a small difference, but it adds up.
- Liz Applegate, Ph.D., is the director of sports nutrition and nutrition department faculty member at the University of California at Davis in Davis, California
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The simple answer is that running at any speed expends approximately 100 calories per mile. Running a seven-minute mile will burn a few more calories than running a 10-minute mile because of the added effort. But most people can't log lots of additional miles at a faster pace without becoming overly fatigued or injured.
- Bryan K. Smith, Ph.D., is an assistant research professor at the University of Kansas Energy Balance Laboratory and Center for Physical Activity & Weight Management
Runner's World Article
You'd have to be booking it to burn 350 calories on a 2 mile run.
If the 100 calories/mile is accurate, then 28 miles a week gives you an extra 400 calories cushion in your daily diet. A slice of pizzeria cheese pizza is ~300 calories according to various sources on a quick Google search. Add in toppings that people usually get, and there's your extra 400 calories per day.
Most people do not run 4 miles per day. In fact, in today's society, I'd be willing to claim that most people believe 4 miles a day or 28 miles a week is some kind of elite athlete who works out too much. In fact, it's the kind of response I get when I tell people how many miles I put into marathon training.
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That’s about two days worth of calories for most people, not a single slice of pizza
You're looking at it by total caloric needs and not by what that would look like per day. People simply don't burn as many calories as they think unless they're working out at elite levels.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 10:04 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:08 am to StringedInstruments
First, I misunderstood your post. I thought you were stating that 28 miles a week gets you a caloric deficit for one slice a pizza a week (not a day.)
I use a heart monitor when I run on the treadmill but I don’t do two miles at the same speed. Most of my runs are intervals. I usually get between 300-350 calories.
FWIW, intervals are so much better than straight runs.
I use a heart monitor when I run on the treadmill but I don’t do two miles at the same speed. Most of my runs are intervals. I usually get between 300-350 calories.
FWIW, intervals are so much better than straight runs.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 10:10 am
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:14 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
It’s because of the loss of traditional familial roles coupled with the continued infringement by work on family life.
50 years ago Mom had dinner on the table when Dad got home at 5:30.
Now chances are both Mom and Dad are working til 5:30-6pm and kids are at daycare, then they’ve got homework to do plus activities. And typically there isn’t time to make a traditional meal, you’re scrambling to find something simple and quick to fit in the schedule.
50 years ago Mom had dinner on the table when Dad got home at 5:30.
Now chances are both Mom and Dad are working til 5:30-6pm and kids are at daycare, then they’ve got homework to do plus activities. And typically there isn’t time to make a traditional meal, you’re scrambling to find something simple and quick to fit in the schedule.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:19 am to elprez00
Meh. I know plenty of people who are obese who eat family dinner 4-5 nights a week. There are still a lot of people who believe a low-fat diet is healthy. They cook nothing but carbs and low-fat sauces/toppings that are stuffed with sugar.
In addition to portion size, our screwed up FDA and food pyramid are the biggest problem.
In addition to portion size, our screwed up FDA and food pyramid are the biggest problem.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:34 am to Antonio Moss
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a lot of people who believe a low-fat diet is healthy.
Yea, like scientist. I can show you brilliant doctors and scientists that can talk for hours on both sides of the equation. One for high fat one for low-fat, but most can agree that excess sugar is bad. But even the American College of cardiology and other gold standard organizations are saying that excess sugar does not cause diabetes.
So I’ve come to the conclusion that we don’t know shite
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