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re: Is there a more lame excuse for obesity in America than "food deserts"?

Posted on 8/5/18 at 3:10 am to
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 3:10 am to
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You can eat like a country boy with few problems if you bust arse outside for 12 hours a day, but when you keep the same eating habits while doing sedentary office work, you will end up being a fatass.


This goes for most cuisines and cultures. The world’s best foods are high calorie meals with lots of fat, protein, and sugar packed into a small amount of food. Such meals were developed a long time ago and the “sit on your arse all day” work lifestyle that’s almost ubiquitous across 1st world countries is a relatively new thing.

I mean, shepherds used to tend the sheep from dawn until dusk and come home to shepherd’s pie, which was designed to provide all of their day’s calories and nutrients.

Nowadays, it’s just an option on the lunch menu between office meetings.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 3:11 am
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 4:01 am to
The people talking about our sedentary lifestyles are on to something.

I enjoy physical activity and wearing myself the frick out, so it's not really a problem for me to eat whatever I want.

It's basically a sliding scale of exertion and diet: expend more energy, get to eat more fun foods and vice versa.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 4:06 am to
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2641 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 6:28 am to
Well I'll counter your claim with the scientific fact that people are 72% less able to be considered a victim if they are held accountable for their own decisions. Thus, there is really no other way for their problem to be your fault unless this food dessert thing is true.
So obviously, the food dessert thing is legitimate, because they are victims who are not responsible for their own state of well-being.
It's just settled science.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54216 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 6:48 am to
I was in the store yesterday, it’s incredible how many obese people there are and what they have in their carts, tons of precooked frozen shite. Soda, chips, sweets, all shite.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52635 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 6:50 am to
You're really bored, aren't you?
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 6:54 am to
The OP got it right.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:04 am to
Inactivity is to blame as much or more than food choices. Both occupationally and recreationally.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:10 am to
I know when they put the Whole Foods in the former food desert at Broad and Orleans, people in the whole area turned into stallions.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:11 am to
The biggest problem with obesity is that our current view of food macros are all wrong. For the longest time, fat has been the enemy, where the real enemy is carbs, aka sugars. It is obvious the grain industry had a role in this, as why else would they suggest 6-11 servings of it a day of bread, grain, pasta, rice?

When in reality this is the better pyramid scheme to follow:



Also a lot of fatties love to eat desserts for breakfast, except they just call it breakfast. Like eating donuts, waffle/pancakes with syrup, biscuits covered in honey, cereal, etc. How in the world can starting your day off with this big sugar spike, gonna be a good start for you?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8851 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:11 am to
What a time to be alive when our poor people are so fat that we have to make up excuses for it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96242 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:13 am to
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starting to think less young people know how to cook


Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14365 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:25 am to
If you narrowed greatly what you could buy with SNAP this problem would solve itself. The fact that you can buy cokes and snacks and ice cream with SNAP is the biggest bs in the US entitlement system. It wastes money there, but it also drives up healthcare prices in the long run. You’re paying for people to get obese then paying for them again when they get sick because of it.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:27 am to
Pasta isn't a problem. Italy doesn't have a lot of fatties.

Bread is a good thing to avoid. Not because it's carbs, but because it's a yuuuge waste of calories.
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8050 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:31 am to
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I don’t see why that’s strange to you. That’s a major factor in my obesity and a problem for a lot of people.

ETA: This is embarrassing. I thought you were talking about desserts.


I laughed
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12801 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:31 am to
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Except that it was proven that there is no increase in consumption of alternatives when they become more locally available.

Some of you people are damn near illiterate.


I would think that when the new item becomes available people often stick with what they’ve already learned and become accustomed to
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8050 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:36 am to
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When I have food at my house (groceries), I eat all day. $200 worth of groceries lasts just me about a week and a half tops


When im stocked up i usually stare into my pantry and complain i aint got nothing to eat then go buy wings. Its a viscious never ending cycle..
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4684 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:38 am to
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I eat sugar like a fricking heroin addict.



Sugar can be an addiction.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 7:43 am to
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"food deserts"?

Desert - sand
Dessert - something sweet
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7786 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:16 am to
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Obesity among Blacks and Southern Whites can be attributed to the same cause, IMO - a cultural culinary inheritance that had a basis of hard, agricultural labor in intense subtroptical clime. 


In Stephen Fry's excellent Fry in America docuseries, he touches on this when he goes to Bismarck, ND. While there, he grabs an insanely hearty breakfast at a diner that consists of country fried steak, gravy, biscuits, etc (your basic Cracker Barrel Uncle Herschel's breakfast, really). He talks about the amount of calories in the breakfast, but is quick to explain the relatable caloric expenditure of hard farm work that the region requires. I had never thought about the linkage between food culture and work culture before his explanation.

Food is so ingrained in Southern culture that I don't think it's possible for dietary changes to catch up to labor changes before we all die of obesity.
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