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re: Is there a more lame excuse for obesity in America than "food deserts"?
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:37 am to Cold Drink
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:37 am to Cold Drink
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When it’s more difficult to purchase an item there will be a decrease in the purchasing of that item. Not hard to understand and your anger over this is weird IMO. You need to calm down.
Frozen fruits and veggies are the same price and only a few isles down from the chips...
I mean, what small town doesn't have a walmart?
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:45 am to elprez00
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kids have activities
I don't think activities contribute to obesity.
The fat kids i see are the ones who play video games all day.
Johnny who's got sports practice and Susie with dance generally aren't fatties.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:47 am to schwartzy
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Obesity levels don’t drop when low-income city neighborhoods have or get grocery stores.
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You can find fruit and vegetables at Walmart for crying out loud.
It’s because their mentality is to always blame their failures on someone or something else. Personal responsibility is not an option.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:48 am to JayDeerTay84
The food desert concept is another contrived liberal excuse for fat poor people in urban area i.e. black inner city residents are helpless to not be fat bc they don’t have a Whole Foods. “They don’t have access to good food so they’re forced to eat junk!” Its another moronic way to blame someone else for a problem and to frame poor urban people as helpless victims.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:50 am to Supermoto Tiger
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Obesity levels don’t drop when low-income city neighborhoods have or get grocery stores.
Right. And the obesity level is high amongst middle class people with access to Whole Foods. I’ve got 5 groceries within a few mile radius and there are fat people everywhere.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:57 am to TheHarahanian
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This is bullshite. When my diet is right, I save money. Prepared foods are more expensive. If you’re fat and too lazy to prepare your own meals, you’ll pay more for prepared healthy foods, and stay fat because you’re lazy.
We studied this in one of my Marketing classes (way back in the day). Poor people pay more for food than other people mainly because they will buy milk, bread, lunch meat, toilet paper... from a Circle K instead of driving to a full blown grocery store - typically, because they only have a few dollars a to spend at a time. You can add preferred convenience or lazy to that as well.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
My experience doesn't discredit your point, but it reminded me of the only time I worked in a very small town. There was not a hot lunch option for miles and miles that was remotely healthy. I lived abroad in an actual desert and ate healthier lunches than I did in that town.
I think the proximity of grocery stores to an area is not the whole story. There was one nearby, but it was the worst grocery store I've ever shopped in. There were no prepared light meals in there to pick up. I could go into grocery stores in BR and cobble something together that wasn't horrific. I had to adjust and start bringing my lunch before I got sucked into Lunchables and fast-food burgers several times a week. It was certainly avoidable with planning, but it was a landmine that you had to recognize and work around. I've never had to do that anywhere else.
I think the proximity of grocery stores to an area is not the whole story. There was one nearby, but it was the worst grocery store I've ever shopped in. There were no prepared light meals in there to pick up. I could go into grocery stores in BR and cobble something together that wasn't horrific. I had to adjust and start bringing my lunch before I got sucked into Lunchables and fast-food burgers several times a week. It was certainly avoidable with planning, but it was a landmine that you had to recognize and work around. I've never had to do that anywhere else.
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:20 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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the amount of incredibly obese people buying frozen dinners is literally staggering to me. the soda isn't that mind-blowing, but the frozen dinners? utterly insane
They’re too lazy to prepare a meal me thinks
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The claim that there aren’t any grocery stores in the hood is bupkis. There are just a lot more smaller stores.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:02 pm to fr33manator
It’s all about activity. My grandfather started every day with biscuits and syrup for breakfast. Every day. Cornbread was ate at almost every other meal. My grandmother always had a cake or pie baked. Of course, he worked outside all day long. Garden and hay in the spring and summer. Cut pulp wood in the winter. He lived to be 92 and was skinny as a rail.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:07 pm to Somebody2
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the cheetos would be a lot less expensive than fruits
I can go to any Dollar Store and buy a couple cans of cheap tuna that cost less than a bag of Cheetos off the shelf. Sure the Cheetos taste better but pretending people can’t eat healthier while trying to save money is absurd.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:28 pm to gizmothepug
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
An unpopular truism is that black obesity rates are high because of the lack of cultural stigma toward fat people, and the lack of body issues by fat people.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Food deserts are definitely an issue. Do they cause obesity, i dont know. But I've lived in a couple and it sucked.
When I lived in ft Athens, my car had to be parked over a mile away. And there was no grocery store for 3-4 miles. So trips to the grocery store couldn't really happen too often.
When I lived in ft Athens, my car had to be parked over a mile away. And there was no grocery store for 3-4 miles. So trips to the grocery store couldn't really happen too often.
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:50 pm to fr33manator
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The claim that there aren’t any grocery stores in the hood is bupkis. There are just a lot more smaller stores.
But they don’t sell GOOD food! No fresh organic vegetables! The only way hood people can avoid literal starvation is by eating chips and cookies!
Posted on 8/5/18 at 12:51 pm to Somebody2
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Healthy foods are more expensive than unhealthy foods, at least on a pound by pound basis. Even if you have a grocery store in the area, the cheetos would be a lot less expensive than fruits are. And the local McDonalds would still be less expensive than anything at the grocery store.
This has been disproven time and time again.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We have a lunch room at work where everyone eats. The difference between what the janitors are eating vs. what the more educated staff are eating is astounding. I had no idea someone could eat Popeye's 3x/week until we all started sharing a lunch room.
We have interns that are better at cooking and bringing their own food to heat up.
We have interns that are better at cooking and bringing their own food to heat up.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I love desserts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
it would probably take a generation to see any change.
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