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re: is it time to reduce the workday and work week in the US?
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:46 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:46 am to The Pirate King
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It’s why we have so many people working 80-90 hour weeks
How many?
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:48 am to crispyUGA
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Yeah, the machine operators in our warehouse are the poster children for temperance and moderation. They wouldn't get loaded at ALL if they were told it was fine to have a drink over lunch...
If they have that little self control when it comes to alcohol, they're probably already doing that anyway.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:49 am to Jcorye1
My dad worked 80 hrs a week most of my childhood. While it afforded us some nice things, I did miss out on a fair amount of quality time.
Honestly, most of my life skills were learned through my time in Boy Scouts. I wanted to be an Eagle Scout just like my dad. Perhaps that was some sort of attention thing.
While in college I decided not to be a doctor like my dad because of the work life balance, although I realize that varies depending on specialty and such. Right now I have a great work life balance, and am able to spend a ton of time with my kids.
Honestly, most of my life skills were learned through my time in Boy Scouts. I wanted to be an Eagle Scout just like my dad. Perhaps that was some sort of attention thing.
While in college I decided not to be a doctor like my dad because of the work life balance, although I realize that varies depending on specialty and such. Right now I have a great work life balance, and am able to spend a ton of time with my kids.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:49 am to The Pirate King
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It’s why we have so many people working 80-90 hour weeks
For my college summer job, I delivered building materials and worked 90 hour weeks all summer.
I could do it because it was only for 3 months and I knew there was an end.
But the guys that did that every day for their jobs with no end...they were all on so many stimulants and pills because they would only sleep for a few hours a night, if any, because it was the only time that they had free time.
I don't know how people live like that.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:50 am to TDcline
quote:Yet people are spending exponentially more on non-necessities.
I truly don’t think we’re far from a worker’s revolution in this country. It’s gotten ridiculous. Cost of living has continued to go up and wages haven’t in almost 20 years. Groceries have gone up, housing up, rent up, insurance up, daycare dramatically up, basic necessities continue to rise
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:52 am to magildachunks
I actually decided once I finish ot school or don’t that I will only work 25-30 hours a week
I’ll get to spend more time with my daughter
I’ll get to spend more time with my daughter
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:52 am to magildachunks
If the 8-5 became the 9-4 i doubt we would see any drop in productivity.
For most people hour 1 is a warmup and Hour 9 is a wind down.
For most people hour 1 is a warmup and Hour 9 is a wind down.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:53 am to magildachunks
YES! 32 hours
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:54 am to Salmon
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the 40 hour work week is all but obsolete these days for most professional jobs
I guarantee the vast majority of people could fit what they do in 40 hours in 32 hours
I know I could
I guarantee you I could fit the work I do in a whole week into about 10 hours...
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:55 am to AbitaFan08
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Yes, I think the U.S. has an archaic system when it comes to what is considered normal work hours.
Go to countries in Europe and people are usually amazed at how many hours the average American puts in at the office.
Also, I like that the norm in many European countries is to have a couple beers at lunch, whereas many American employers would frown upon this.
European countries also generally highly, highly discourage people from dicking around on Facebook or VikingDroppings during the workday as well. Americans "work" more hours, but I would be almost certain that productivity per hour is lower. We tend to blend work and personal life in a way that is weird to them. No more running to the doctor or picking up the kids during work hours.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:56 am to ell_13
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Yet people are spending exponentially more on non-necessities.
Trying to justify the number of labor hours put in. If you work a shitload of hours and it's just to pay bills and survive is not the American Dream.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 9:59 am to Salmon
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But the guys that did that every day for their jobs with no end...they were all on so many stimulants and pills because they would only sleep for a few hours a night, if any, because it was the only time that they had free time. I don't know how people live like that.
No thanks. I’d rather make less and have a reasonable work/life balance. I know a lot of plant people who work schedules like that. 6 or 7 12’s a week. frick that.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:02 am to magildachunks
I just want to work teachers hours
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:03 am to yellowfin
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I just want to work teachers hours
No you don't. You want to work the hours that the school is open.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:03 am to AbitaFan08
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Yes, I think the U.S. has an archaic system when it comes to what is considered normal work hours.
Go to countries in Europe and people are usually amazed at how many hours the average American puts in at the office.
Counterpoint:
America is innovative, produces far more, and influences the world far more
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:05 am to magildachunks
Yes. Most good jobs require people to work more than 40 hrs and also expect them to be responsive to email on nights and weekends. It is a problem for leisure time and wellbeing.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:06 am to magildachunks
Hell no. I like to work.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:11 am to LNCHBOX
I wouldn't mind working a little at home if I got off at 3
Summers off
Two weeks for Christmas
Etc
Summers off
Two weeks for Christmas
Etc
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:12 am to magildachunks
Are you going to pay me a higher wage to cover the hours that I’d be cut?
Posted on 3/20/18 at 10:13 am to magildachunks
No, you aren't a man until you come home from a long day so work too tired to play video games or satisfy your wife in bed.
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