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re: Is it acceptable for me to punish junior high(7-9 grade) kids for a loss?

Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:15 pm to
Reminds me of the coach I had in Jr. High, the one responsible for making me hate basketball for the rest of my life.
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
1370 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:15 pm to
Do you spend time shooting free throws every day in practice? Maybe you should look at how much time you spend doing it or how you coach them. I would not run them. It is your responsibility to get them ready in all facets of the game. If there is a shortfall (other than athleticism) then that is on you. How does running fix their shot?

Fix the problem...it is your problem too. Running them says "it's your fault" to the kids on something for which the lion's share of the blame is yours. Be a man and take responsibility for the problem. Then do your job and fix it. Run them for stupid mistakes that they have been coached and coached not to make.

Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103971 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:17 pm to
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How do you not make fricking free throws pieces of shite
Using POS to describe junior high players. That's interesting.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98337 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:18 pm to
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"People want championship banners. How do we get there? We don't get there with milk and cookies."


General Bob Knight.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26038 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:18 pm to
I would strongly recommend doing that and getting a BELT too just to make sure they know you mean business.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56113 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:18 pm to
Do you think they wish they would have made more free throws? I think punishment is better left to instances where people intentionally do something wrong (i.e. missing practice, being disruptive, etc.). Your job is to figure out how to make them better free throw shooters, and not to simply take out your frustrations on them.

Maybe you need to allocate more practice time to free throws. If they do well in practice, but not in games, maybe you should include something in practice to teach them to tune out distractions while shooting.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3808 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:19 pm to
We always ended practice with each player shooting 2 free throws. We ran a suicide for every miss.

And no, it’s not unacceptable. But will punishing them for missing free throws correct or motivate them to not miss them?

Maybe practice should be structured to shoot free throws while exhausted to prepare them for game situations?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68487 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:20 pm to
What about their shooting mechanics?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68487 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:25 pm to
Have them shoot free throws at the beginning

Scrimmage as if it’s a real game,

You can also get a radio or something else to simulate crowd noise if that is the issue

There’s a lot of areas you need to address besides running. You save that for when they foul another kid on purpose
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16098 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:27 pm to
They shoot good in practice even with music playing. Idk what else to do since we shoot every day. They arent pieves of shite I was just frustrated but I do feel like they need to understand the urgency and care in getting down your free throws.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16098 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:29 pm to
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You can also get a radio or something else to simulate crowd noise if that is the issue
I do that
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There’s a lot of areas you need to address besides running. You save that for when they foul another kid on purpose
I encourage that. We wanna play with an edge.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:32 pm to
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Is it acceptable for me to punish junior high(7-9 grade) kids for a loss?
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
176150 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:34 pm to
since you shoot free throws i practice and they miss in-game time its obviously mental


so make em shoot in practice while you frick their mom under the goal


they learn to concentrate on the shot
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
1370 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:44 pm to
They're young. Things like free throws and throwing a hitch in football are a repetition thing. Quality mechanics will shorten the number of repetitions needed for mastery but, even so, it is asking alot for a 12-14 year old to have mastery of a repetition skill. Athleticism can mark a lack of repetitions but for most kids that isn't the case. Also, you can expect a regression of the skill in a game setting. At least until they figure out that the skill is used the same way in a game as it is in practice...that is an experience issue.

What I am saying is this: reps, technique, and time will eventually smooth out the problem. Be patient.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21954 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:44 pm to
Simple, you have to hit 8/10 before you leave practice. Our coach did that and we won District from 93-04
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 9:48 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27325 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:48 pm to
Are you really a coach?
Posted by Kige Ramsey
1996,1998,2012.
Member since Jul 2007
44412 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:50 pm to
You trying to be Bobby Knight or something? You shouldn't accept losing but there are other ways to motivate them then what you are proposing
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:51 pm to
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They shoot good in practice even with music playing. Idk what else to do since we shoot every day. They arent pieves of shite I was just frustrated but I do feel like they need to understand the urgency and care in getting down your free throws.


Christ have mercy man. They’re kids, 11-12 year olds. Relax.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21968 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:55 pm to
At that age, most of them could probably use some more work on their form that would benefit more than running
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15868 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:57 pm to
Beat him with a switch
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