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re: Is Craftsman still the best brand of hand tools?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:39 pm to Hammertime
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:39 pm to Hammertime
Heck, I wouldn't even do it for the money either!
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:39 pm to Traveler
quote:those old fricks know shite
ACE huh? I'm retiring in a couple months...Hmmm
I was in an ACE few month back looking at some rope on a spindle
old man asks me, do you need enough for a hanging?
thats some mad old scholl skillz
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:48 pm to High C
Here's my pics:
1. Snap on ratchets. They are very comfortable, require less force/less arc to catch teeth when ratcheting and have thinner heads to get into tighter spots.
2. Knipex pliers- There is no competition here, grips better than other brands, comfortable and takes massive amounts of abuse without fail. I would highly recommend the Cobra plier set.
3. Sockets are a mixed bag- use mainly craftsman, love my snap on mid length sockets and have some harbor freight impacts.
4. Combo Wrenches- Flank drive plus snap-on's are the best, they have serrated teeth that can catch/remove rounded off bolts, are made with a tighter tolerance and don't spread like cheap ones do when putting a serious load on them. They are pricey as hell though.
Screwdrivers- Wiha are a personal preference, was not overly impressed with snap ons.
Air tools-IR and CP are great. Harbor freight is okay but they leak and many of them lack power.
All that being said, if I were buying my kid a tool set, he would get a gear wrench or craftsman set and maybe a snap on ratchet.
1. Snap on ratchets. They are very comfortable, require less force/less arc to catch teeth when ratcheting and have thinner heads to get into tighter spots.
2. Knipex pliers- There is no competition here, grips better than other brands, comfortable and takes massive amounts of abuse without fail. I would highly recommend the Cobra plier set.
3. Sockets are a mixed bag- use mainly craftsman, love my snap on mid length sockets and have some harbor freight impacts.
4. Combo Wrenches- Flank drive plus snap-on's are the best, they have serrated teeth that can catch/remove rounded off bolts, are made with a tighter tolerance and don't spread like cheap ones do when putting a serious load on them. They are pricey as hell though.
Screwdrivers- Wiha are a personal preference, was not overly impressed with snap ons.
Air tools-IR and CP are great. Harbor freight is okay but they leak and many of them lack power.
All that being said, if I were buying my kid a tool set, he would get a gear wrench or craftsman set and maybe a snap on ratchet.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:52 pm to Hammertime
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one guy working the entire tools/lawn equipment/patio/workout dept.
Yeah, that is really screwed up. Back then, when you worked in hardware, that is where you stayed. No lawn mowers, sporting goods, etc. They had their own sales people.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:53 pm to Honky Lips
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Snap-on or Matco by a mile.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:56 pm to Evolved Simian
Please educate us oh master of tools
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:47 pm to Honky Lips
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forged in the same factory in Mexico. They simply changed the dies for the branding day-to-day.
But, they change the die out sooner for upper-end units. You'll have "first" run die production tools for brand X and then after the die gets close to being changed out for a new one, they will make 2nd run (older die) production for brand Y.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:05 pm to RedPop4
quote:This may be true today, but years ago they were made with different grades of metal.
Cousin in the tool bidniss once told me they did a factory tour. Snap-on, Mac, and Craftsman were all forged in the same factory in Mexico. They simply changed the dies for the branding day-to-day.
I had an aircraft mechanic show me a trick to tell which cylinders were firing and which weren't by dragging a Craftsman wrench down the side of the exhaust manifolds while the engine was running. If it slid easily down the manifold (slightly melted the chrome) it was running. If it didn't, dead cylinder.
Said it wouldn't work with a Snap-on wrench.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:07 pm to High C
Personally, I like Snap On tools the best, but, it is difficult to justify the expense unless you are a professional mechanic.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:17 pm to High C
Snap-On is #1.
IMO, Kobalt and Husky are better than the current Craftsman tools.
IMO, Kobalt and Husky are better than the current Craftsman tools.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:29 pm to King
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Hand tools - Snap-On or Matco.
There is a reason mechanics use them.
This
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:35 pm to Traveler
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LoL, I was a rookie while working with some of the best. These old guys made their living doing it and they were damn good. It probably hurts them more than anybody to see what it has become now.
I had two friends. One dad sold appliances at Sears for years and put 4 kids through catholic schools and LSU on a one income family.
Another was a Sears TV repairman and he had 8 kids. Those old men knew their shite.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:48 pm to sleepytime
For oilfield use, especially on the rig floor, this Proto 18" adjustable hammer and 3/8" ratcheting hammer were my go-to tools.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 10:59 pm to Hammertime
The king of all industrial pocket tools

Posted on 5/9/17 at 12:34 am to High C
The people who made the original Craftsman tools now make Rigid tools. When Sears took the brand overseas to be made Home Depot made a deal with the original plant who made them to produce the same tools only better and named them Rigid. Kobalt tools were made by Snap On.
Most mechanics like Snap On except for the price
Instrument and Electrical guys swear by Klien
Milwauke for battery tools
Most mechanics like Snap On except for the price
Instrument and Electrical guys swear by Klien
Milwauke for battery tools
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 1:00 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:33 am to Clames
I have my grandpa's bench vise and some of his tools. The heft of those older tools compared to now is amazing. He was an electrical engineer, so there are a lot of things I'm unlikely to use. Like a huge board to check tubes and capacitors. 
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:40 am to 19
Yep - any craftsman tool made over 50 years ago >>>>>>>>> anything today
Posted on 5/9/17 at 7:41 am to GO TIGERS GO
Also true - crazy Rigid isn't getting a lot of love - those tools are fantastic
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