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re: Is Craftsman still the best brand of hand tools?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:19 pm to High C
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:19 pm to High C
Sears' $900M sale of Craftsman to Stanley Black & Decker 'voidable'?
Several weeks ago I saw a sign advertising Craftsman in an Ace Hardware.
Several weeks ago I saw a sign advertising Craftsman in an Ace Hardware.
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:26 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re they worth the price? IMO, only for certain things. Buying a 3/4" 48" ratchet? Yes, it's worth it. Buying a an impact wrench to use in your garage? No way.
What is a good impact wrench and where to find it? As well as any other impacts.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:27 pm to PSU2LSU
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Harbor Freight
You know, outside of ones I lost, I still have ever tool I've purchased at Harbor Freight, and they all work. Yeah it's all cheap, but the shite just works.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:52 pm to VaBamaMan
I bought a Popular Mechanics set of sockets with a ratchet about 15 years ago. I dont know if they manufactured it themselves or had another company do it but those are the toughest tools I have ever owned. I have out cheater pipes on the 3/8 ratchet and used it as a hammer on too many occasions and it just keeps on ticking. The sockets are just as strong. Have yet to round one out or break one.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:54 pm to Martini
The earthquake line of air tools from harbor freight is an extremely good value and id recommend them to anyone for home use. I know some full time mechanics who use them and like them.
Otherwise, the regular big names out there in air tools make good impacts. Ingersol rand of course is what you see the most of.
Otherwise, the regular big names out there in air tools make good impacts. Ingersol rand of course is what you see the most of.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:58 pm to meauxjeaux2
Milwaukee tools are the best IMO.
Everything they make is outstanding.
Everything they make is outstanding.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:21 pm to High C
No, it never was. Snap on is probably the "best" out there, but you'd be crazy to buy those for your son.
Craftsman is more than adequate for a weekend warrior.
Craftsman is more than adequate for a weekend warrior.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:35 pm to GenesChin
I am using one or multiple of my tools every day. I don't like broken tools, so I buy nice shite. Good stuff is more reliable, more precise, more tough, built to tighter tolerances, etc. There's a reason I pay a premium once. I've broken too many cheap tools to count
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:44 pm to High C
Quality without price, go Makita or Milwaukee.
Honestly get extra batteries.
I have 12 year old NiCad Dewalt batteries but the lithiums only last a couple of years.
Knock off from Amazon is fine.
Honestly get extra batteries.
I have 12 year old NiCad Dewalt batteries but the lithiums only last a couple of years.
Knock off from Amazon is fine.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:58 pm to High C
Williams USA socket sets are as good as Snap-on and cost a few dollars less!
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:03 pm to High C
Having been around tools most of my life and even spent a couple years at Sears selling them while in school, I have learned one truth long ago that still stands true today. Good tools won't make a bad mechanic any better, but good tools can most always make a good mechanic a better one.
Buy the best quality tool for the most common uses. Save your money on the tools that you might use once in a blue moon.
Buy the best quality tool for the most common uses. Save your money on the tools that you might use once in a blue moon.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:07 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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But if you're buying snap on chrome... it's the best hand tools on the planet.
agree completely...I have been around the business for a long time and I have never seen any other brand approach snap-on in quality.
that said, I think snap on is too expensive for the average guy to work on stuff around his house with. I would probably opt for a lower tier tool and since craftsman is the easiest for the average guy to get replaced, that is what I would buy for a homeowner as a gift.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:11 pm to RustyTiger
Snap-on Owns JH William's
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:12 pm to Traveler
The collapse of Sears has been a remarkable thing to behold.
Funny thing most people think it was the internet that killed Sears and that's only partially true
the big mistake is the company tried to make money in real estate and got away from retail as a focus.
Observation, people always eventually give ito the technology, even though some brands fail, not all platforms are accepted, eventually, the tech advance win out
I bet that how the mark of the beast eventually takes hold
convenience and consumption
Funny thing most people think it was the internet that killed Sears and that's only partially true
the big mistake is the company tried to make money in real estate and got away from retail as a focus.
Observation, people always eventually give ito the technology, even though some brands fail, not all platforms are accepted, eventually, the tech advance win out
I bet that how the mark of the beast eventually takes hold
convenience and consumption
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:12 pm to RustyTiger
I think they actually make Snap-on.
A lot of Snap-on stuff is way overpriced anyway. You can get the same or better quality tools for cheaper or the same price. If I had to buy ratchets with a rubber grip, it would be Snap-on though
A lot of Snap-on stuff is way overpriced anyway. You can get the same or better quality tools for cheaper or the same price. If I had to buy ratchets with a rubber grip, it would be Snap-on though
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:23 pm to OWLFAN86
Very true Owl. I saw the beginnings of the failure long ago when Sears wanted to get rid of full time employees. Hire part timers, no benefits, no commission on sales. When I knew I could get a piece of sale of a table saw that you were interested in, I did my best to know the product, understand what your intended use was and know what you needed to make your project work. I knew my product line from top to bottom. That was what I was taught from day one and it was a good thing.
Good luck with that today. Most have no idea what they are selling and don't care if you buy it or not. Multiply that a few thousand times a day and it doesn't take long for a business to fall apart.
Good luck with that today. Most have no idea what they are selling and don't care if you buy it or not. Multiply that a few thousand times a day and it doesn't take long for a business to fall apart.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:27 pm to Traveler
The one by me has one guy working the entire tools/lawn equipment/patio/workout dept. Really nice guy, but definitely overworked. I always feel bad for the dude when I go there.
Sears gave up a long time ago. The Kmart deal was the nail in the coffin
Sears gave up a long time ago. The Kmart deal was the nail in the coffin
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:28 pm to Traveler
quote:you should get a job at ACE
I did my best to know the product, understand what your intended use was and know what you needed to make your project work. I knew my product line from top to bottom. That was what I was taught from day one and it was a good thing.
thats my plan when I retire
be old and work at ACE and know shite
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:34 pm to OWLFAN86
LoL, I was a rookie while working with some of the best. These old guys made their living doing it and they were damn good. It probably hurts them more than anybody to see what it has become now.
ACE huh? I'm retiring in a couple months...Hmmm
ACE huh? I'm retiring in a couple months...Hmmm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:36 pm to Traveler
ACE reportedly sells Craftsman now. That, and Big Green Egg discounts might make it worth it
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