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ClientNumber9
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Interesting perspective on transgenderism
This is an interesting take on transgenderism from a homosexual gender dysphoria suffer himself. He makes several valid points.

Chad Felix Greene

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Trans people and their allies have, of course, insisted with great indignation that their condition is not an illness, but it is hard to see how this conclusion is to be avoided, if it’s insisted that it must be treated or else will be fatal.

Illnesses that require treatment do not constitute anyone’s identity. Being HIV-positive requires medical treatment. I do not identify as HIV-positive as though it made me an entirely new kind of person. It is a condition I need to treat in order to live and be healthy. How is being trans any different?



He's totally right here. Trans people tell you they don't suffer from an illness, then tell you how they need immediate medical intervention or it could be deadly. They insist transition surgery is NOT elective but a necessary, life-saving procedure.

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The goal of most transgender individuals is to live as the opposite sex. If one could simply enjoy whatever gender identity felt the most appropriate at any given time, medical intervention would be merely cosmetic. So if we agree that people who identify as transgender desire to be the opposite sex— arguing that internally they already are — then we must accept that the ideal state for all individuals is cisgender, where gender and sex align naturally.


He then makes this great point:

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In order to achieve a healthy and mentally stable state, a trans person must have their gender and sex as closely aligned as possible. Why, though, does this require the physical sex to change in order to align to the perceived gender? Why shouldn’t the perceived gender be what changes?

It seems far more reasonable — and medically ethical and sound — to achieve this homeostasis by changing gender to match to the already established sex. The body’s aggressive and persistent attempt to return to a state, despite medical interventions to override that state, indicates that the state is “natural.” The body is being medically forced to adapt to conditions it is unsuited to experience.

It seems far more reasonable to recognize that the physical sex at birth is the standard by which internal perception should be aligned. Logically, wouldn’t a transgender person who suffers due to misalignment of gender and sex be equally as happy aligning his gender to his sex if the end result is that gender and sex are the same? Why is the only acceptable option to force, through dramatic physical deformity, the body to adapt to the mind instead?

I have personally experienced gender dysphoria, and I explored transition in my early 20s. I am aware of the emotional struggle, and I am sympathetic to the sense of frustration and hopelessness. But I am also aware of the empowering realization that I alone control how I perceive the world. Even if I would prefer to be female, I understand that my body is male, and therefore the most effective and healthiest plan of action is to align my sense of gender to that unchangeable state. I have largely been successful, as I feel fully integrated today and am not only comfortable in my male body but find myself enjoying the pursuit of masculine physical progress.


The suicide rates for transgender people EVEN AFTER REASSIGNMENT SURGERY remain absurdly high.

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An uncomfortable truth is that many surveys, including a 2011 Swedish study, indicate that suicide rates remain high after sex-reassignment surgery (the Swedish study reports that people who have had sex-reassignment surgery are 19 times more likely to die by suicide than is the general population); and the National Center for Transgender Equality reported in 2015 that 40 percent of people who identify as transgender have attempted suicide. The LGBT community actively fights such studies and suppresses the voices of people who, like myself, have chosen natural alignment or who regret transitioning. The medical community is currently uninterested in recognizing the inherent dangers and long-term impact of transition therapy and is equally unwilling to pursue study that may result in finding a cure or a resolution to the underlying issue. To suggest this is a medical issue needing to be cured is to be accused of proposing genocide.

We cannot forget the real tragedy in all of this. People suffering from genuine mental anguish are being promised that with enough surgery, camouflage, social acceptance, legal protection, educational campaigns, and so on, they will finally feel whole as a person. Worse, they are told that the only reason they continue to suffer is due to the intolerance and hatred of those around them. The current method of addressing this concern is only making matters worse. Treatment needs to address the core problem.
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
Great Wall of Text on a non-interesting subject

tl/dr: tl/dr


LSUTigersVCURams
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
Trans gender is some made up bull shite. frick everyone who is trying to make it out to be normal.

People up north are obsessed by this stuff. It's like mass delusion. It's scary.
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Mr. Hangover
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
let me break it down for you:






NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT GIVE A frick ABOUT THIS SHIT


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kywildcatfanone
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
Transgenderism is a mental disorder. I have a friend who is dealing with it in his family.


Displaced
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
Feelings don't trump biology, sorry.


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brucevilanch
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
quote:

ClientNumber9


Bro, it's cool if you want to be gay and dress as a girl. We don't give a frick.


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Turftoe
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
This will probably hurt crawfish prices


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StealthCalais11
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
That's a whole lot of Wat


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OldSouth
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
He is absolutely right.


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SECdragonmaster
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
I know it’s a walk of text but the author is correct.

You should take time to read it. He makes excellent points.


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lsuwontonwrap
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
I think there is definitely a "gay" gene. I say that with all seriousness and from a Scientific standpoint. I grew up with a guy who not only turned out to be gay, but his brother and sister were both gay as well. You're going to tell me that's some huge coincidence and not a hereditary thing? I'm not saying this is the case with all gay people, but I think it happens.

Calling it an "illness" is tricky in the sense that it's not something that can be "treated", per se. And as far as trans people are concerned, I don't think I would call a sex change a "treatment" but what do I know?


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Lsupimp
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
I’m not sure what any of that wall of Text has to do with truck nuts or MMA.


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rmnldr
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
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Great Wall of Text


It takes like a minute and a half to read.


1BamaRTR
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
Some people really have the attention span of a squirrel


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crazyLSUstudent
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
That is a minute and 27 seconds to long for most of the OT


SECdragonmaster
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
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I grew up with a guy who not only turned out to be gay, but his brother and sister were both gay as well. You're going to tell me that's some huge coincidence and not a hereditary thing?


Maybe the uncle molested all three of them? That would not be a strange coincidence.


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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
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I grew up with a guy who not only turned out to be gay, but his brother and sister were both gay as well. You're going to tell me that's some huge coincidence and not a hereditary thing?

The house probably had lead pipes like in flint


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Kentucker
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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
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In order to achieve a healthy and mentally stable state, a trans person must have their gender and sex as closely aligned as possible. Why, though, does this require the physical sex to change in order to align to the perceived gender? Why shouldn’t the perceived gender be what changes?


The irony of a gay man opining that a transgender should "change his mind to match his sex organs" can't be overlooked. After all, it could be argued using his logic that gay people should change their sexual preferences to match the sex organs of the opposite sex. Should be just as easy, right?

The reality is that gender identity and sexual orientation are locked in while the fetus is developing in the womb. There is no known way to reverse either after development is completed. I'm positive that most transgenders, and even a lot of gay people would choose to "change their minds" if that were possible.


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