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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:11 pm to boxcarbarney
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:11 pm to boxcarbarney
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Its something we've been normalizing for many years.
I think we've become more accepting, which is perfectly fine with me. If someone wants to go down that particular path, then more power to them. Just don't tell me how I should react to it. I have no problem with trannies, but they're not normal and absolutely have a mental condition.
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:15 pm to upgrayedd
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I have no problem with trannies, but they're not normal and absolutely have a mental condition.
In theory, I have no issue with them. But of the few true trannies I've met, every single one has been an in-your-face douchenozzle. Yes I'm aware you're transgender. No I don't really have an opinion on transgender rights. No I don't believe I need to take a position on transgender rights. No I'm not a bigot.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:17 pm to boxcarbarney
I'm admittedly confused on the difference between gender and sex.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:19 pm to boxcarbarney
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In theory, I have no issue with them. But of the few true trannies I've met, every single one has been an in-your-face douchenozzle. Yes I'm aware you're transgender. No I don't really have an opinion on transgender rights. No I don't believe I need to take a position on transgender rights. No I'm not a bigot.
Yeah, you can't tell me you want to be treated like everyone else then tell me about how you're different and awesome at the same time. These days, treating them like everyone else and not giving them special treatment is akin to discrimination.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:31 pm to upgrayedd
quote:I've literally never met or even spoken to a tranny
But of the few true trannies I've met, every single one has been an in-your-face douchenozzle.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:34 pm to jchamil
quote:sex is biological
I'm admittedly confused on the difference between gender and sex.
Gender is the social side of sex (gender roles, bias, chivalry, etc)
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:36 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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People up north are obsessed by this stuff. It's like mass delusion. It's scary.
I raise you southern california, sir. They're the real psychopaths about all this stuff.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:41 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I've literally never met or even spoken to a tranny
...that you know of... But I have a few gay friends and I've met a couple of trannies through them. When I worked at the bank I had a couple of trannies as customers. One was named Stephanie. Stephanie was 6'5" and looked like she worked on the docks as a longshoreman. Stephanie's tranny girlfriend, Dee, would get super pissy if anyone called Stephanie "sir."
Sorry Dee, but Stephanie has a 5 o'clock shadow and a voice deeper than Barry White. Even if he/she has tits, he/she looks like a man, and people will confuse someone who looks like a man as a man.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:55 pm to Kentucker
There's no known way to cure schizophrenia, either, but that doesn't stop us from attempting to treat it, nor do we throw up our hands and say, "Well, it must just be a normal thing, then."
I would also like to see the study that somehow determined that "gender identity" is "locked in" in the womb. How would anyone even attempt to survey such a thing? Did they ask a representative sample of fetuses if they "felt" like their biological sex?
The social furor around transgenderism is a direct result of normalizing homosexuality. Progressives hate when the "slippery slope" argument is pulled out, and yet it proves true pretty much every single time. But, nonetheless, we continue to hand out inches, knowing all along that people by nature are some mile-taking motherfrickers.
I would also like to see the study that somehow determined that "gender identity" is "locked in" in the womb. How would anyone even attempt to survey such a thing? Did they ask a representative sample of fetuses if they "felt" like their biological sex?
The social furor around transgenderism is a direct result of normalizing homosexuality. Progressives hate when the "slippery slope" argument is pulled out, and yet it proves true pretty much every single time. But, nonetheless, we continue to hand out inches, knowing all along that people by nature are some mile-taking motherfrickers.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 3:58 pm to ClientNumber9
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interesting take on transgenderism from a homosexual gender dysphoria suffer himself
Posted on 2/9/18 at 4:34 pm to ClientNumber9
He is spot on. Glad he got the help he needed.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 4:39 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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sex is biological
Gender is the social side of sex (gender roles, bias, chivalry, etc)
bullshite. Sex and gender are intertwined.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 4:47 pm to ClientNumber9
It is a mental issue or a neurological issue. If they could fix what is going on in the brain it would probably be healthier for the body than to pump it full of silicone and hormones.
I have a feeling that the trans population would find that offensive.
I have a feeling that the trans population would find that offensive.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:03 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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There's no known way to cure schizophrenia, either, but that doesn't stop us from attempting to treat it,
There are ways to treat schizophrenia. Cure? No.
There are no treatments for gender dysphoria and certainly no cure.
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nor do we throw up our hands and say, "Well, it must just be a normal thing, then."
I've never met anyone in the scientific community who has said this.
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I would also like to see the study that somehow determined that "gender identity" is "locked in" in the womb.
The conclusion that gender identity is locked in while in the womb is based upon biology, not sociology, so there were no surveys. LINK
While the environment does influence some gender traits such as affinities associated with relationships, one's gender identity and sexual orientation are well established at birth. Note in the article to which I've linked that the brain of the devlopong fetus must either be masculinized or left to develop as feminine. Anyone who doesn't recognize that mistakes can happen in the womb are just ignorant of biology.
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The production of testosterone at about 9 weeks of gestation results in the development of the reproductive tract and the masculinization (the normal development of male sex characteristics) of the brain and genitalia. In contrast to the role of the fetal testis in differentiation of a male genital tract and external genitalia in utero, fetal ovarian secretions are not required for female sex differentiation.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:17 pm to Kentucker
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There are no treatments for gender dysphoria
I actually disagree with that. Most kids who get gender dysphoria come out of it eventually. And then if you don’t, then you can argue that the transitioning is the treatment. Blaire White makes a good argument knowing she’s fricked in the head and that she’s not actually a female, but argues there was no other way to treat Blaire’s situation specifically.
But as far as UK doctors liberally diagnosing every kid with gender dysphoria, it’s fricked up and these doctors are going to pay a dear price.
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The conclusion that gender identity is locked in while in the womb is based upon biology, not sociology, so there were no surveys. LINK
While the environment does influence some gender traits such as affinities associated with relationships, one's gender identity and sexual orientation are well established at birth. Note in the article to which I've linked that the brain of the devlopong fetus must either be masculinized or left to develop as feminine. Anyone who doesn't recognize that mistakes can happen in the womb are just ignorant of biology.
I don’t buy it. Most kids with gender dysphoria do not transition. They grow out of it. Are there some biological factors, I’m sure, but the environment is important as well.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:20 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Transgenderism is a mental disorder. I have a friend who is dealing with it in his family.
It is a mental disorder. And it is being driven by those who want to corrupt our youths.
They are being intentionally confused at a young age.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:21 pm to OMLandshark
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bullshite. Sex and gender are intertwined.
Exactly. Gender is simply a societal reflection of biological sex. They're directly connected to each other.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:27 pm to OMLandshark
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Most kids with gender dysphoria do not transition.
A very tiny minority do, in fact. Transitioning requires an incredible amount of surgery and hormonal changes for the body and a satisfactory result is rarely achieved.
It's tragic that some people's development in the womb is incomplete and that they have to suffer that fate. Maybe research can lead to a monitoring of the development of a fetus to insure that a male fetus's brain is masculinized, for example.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:31 pm to upgrayedd
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Exactly. Gender is simply a societal reflection of biological sex. They're directly connected to each other.
You really don't understand biology. If you really think that transgenderism, or any other sex difference for that matter, is a choice then you are susceptible to that tired old axiom, "When did you choose?"
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:45 pm to Kentucker
The study you posted described the way in which biological sex is determined and developed in fetuses. It in no way references any such thing as a “gender identity” or attempts to describe how such a thing could develop independently of biological sex in human fetuses.
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