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re: Interesting perspective on transgenderism

Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:48 pm to
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You really don't understand biology. If you really think that transgenderism, or any other sex difference for that matter, is a choice then you are susceptible to that tired old axiom, "When did you choose?"

Huh?

How did you come to that conclusion based on what I said?

You're not bright.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:49 pm to
Gender reassignment is the modern day lobotomy. Science and medicine will view it as a cruel, barbaric practice in time.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:50 pm to
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It's tragic that some people's development in the womb is incomplete and that they have to suffer that fate. Maybe research can lead to a monitoring of the development of a fetus to insure that a male fetus's brain is masculinized, for example.


What kind of frickery is this?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:12 pm to
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bullshite. Sex and gender are intertwined.
did I say they weren't
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:33 pm to
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The study you posted described the way in which biological sex is determined and developed in fetuses. It in no way references any such thing as a “gender identity” or attempts to describe how such a thing could develop independently of biological sex in human fetuses.


You obviously don't have a background in developmental biology. Sorry, I can't teach you how the masculinazation of the fetal brain affects gender identity in an online forum. We'll just have to park this here.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:34 pm to
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Transgenderism is a mental disorder.
Thanks cause I thought it was normal.



Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:36 pm to
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You're not bright.


Oh, okay.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:49 pm to
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An uncomfortable truth is that many surveys, including a 2011 Swedish study, indicate that suicide rates remain high after sex-reassignment surgery (the Swedish study reports that people who have had sex-reassignment surgery are 19 times more likely to die by suicide than is the general population); and the National Center for Transgender Equality reported in 2015 that 40 percent of people who identify as transgender have attempted suicide.


And yet progressive idiots have opened the door to letting them serve in the military.
Posted by SleauxPlay
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:55 pm to
The Swedish study was poorly designed and is frequently misinterpreted. There are high rates of suicide in gender dysphoria, period. They made no effort to examine suicide rates in transgenders who did not undergo reassignment.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:57 pm to
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There's no known way to cure schizophrenia, either, but that doesn't stop us from attempting to treat it, nor do we throw up our hands and say, "Well, it must just be a normal thing, then”.

The social furor around transgenderism is a direct result of normalizing homosexuality. Progressives hate when the "slippery slope" argument is pulled out, and yet it proves true pretty much every single time. But, nonetheless, we continue to hand out inches, knowing all along that people by nature are some mile-taking motherfrickers.


High five.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:19 pm to
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The Swedish study was poorly designed and is frequently misinterpreted. There are high rates of suicide in gender dysphoria, period. They made no effort to examine suicide rates in transgenders who did not undergo reassignment.



I have yet to hear someone deny that the rates are high in both those who go through reassignment and those who do not. Granted, this is a complicated issue and the people who go through the reassignment process are not randomly selected (they are selecting themselves to a large extent, with additional variables like social support, medical support, and financial wherewithal to have the procedures performed).

I agree if you want to make the argument that more research should be done to tease out variables but so far it seems clear the use of surgical and medical reassignment as a cure for life threatening depression (if I can use this as a short hand for people likely to kill themselves) is not showing itself to be effective.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:12 pm to
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They made no effort to examine suicide rates in transgenders who did not undergo reassignment.


There are fewer than 11,000 transgender soldiers and only 25 of them transitioned last year. The right-wing hysteria about transgenderism, both in the military and in civil society, is fabricated fear meant to galvanize opposition to a problem that doesn't exist.

Transgender issues have been dealt with at local levels all across the country for decades with compassion and fairness. It's regrettable that it has become a national political issue.
Posted by labratz
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:13 pm to
On a side note... Remember that tag line
"Secret antiperpsirant. Strong enough for a man, pH balanced for a woman?"

This ad really confuses me.

Secret - Trans Ad
Posted by mtntiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 11:05 am to
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The right-wing hysteria about transgenderism, both in the military and in civil society, is fabricated fear meant to galvanize opposition to a problem that doesn't exist.


Wait, you're blaming conservatives for making this an issue?

Are you out of your mind? We're not the ones parading them around and telling everyone how 'brave' they are and how they're just like you and me.

We're the ones who stand by the science that says these people are obviously mentally ill and need help, not accolades.

Putting them on a pedestal isn't doing them a damn bit of good, and the people who push this crap on children are child abusers. It's idiot libs who are pushing this crap down our throats. Conservatives have every right to push back.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 11:24 am to
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The right-wing hysteria about transgenderism, both in the military and in civil society, is fabricated fear meant to galvanize opposition to a problem that doesn't exist.


And the left-wing hysteria over the bathroom thing is blown out of proportion. Really I don't think it should be legal for kids under 18 to be taking hormones anyway, which basically solves the school situation, but since when has the bathroom been a legally binding location? Both sides think it's important, when really it doesn't affect anything and no one gives a shite.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 11:27 am to
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The reality is that gender identity and sexual orientation are locked in while the fetus is developing in the womb.


The reality is that you spout this bullshite as if it is as factual as water falls from the sky. You're full of it.

I read a study somewhere (no link, don't remember, don't care enough to look) where rats where born in a normal lab environment moved to a crowded one, tended to show more homosexual behavior while in the crowded environment. This is the exact shite we are seeing today - people finding new ways to stand out from the crowd.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5152 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 11:34 am to
I only read the first 2 blurbs, but I can agree. They do have a medical condition, in layman's terms it's CAF(crazy as frick). They're no different to the nut jobs that think they're cats or adult babies or aliens. They're mentally deficient.
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 12:04 pm to
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The reality is that you spout this bullshite as if it is as factual as water falls from the sky. You're full of it.


Ok, I’m listening.

quote:

I read a study somewhere (no link, don't remember, don't care enough to look) where rats where born in a normal lab environment moved to a crowded one, tended to show more homosexual behavior while in the crowded environment. This is the exact shite we are seeing today - people finding new ways to stand out from the crowd.




You should’ve just stopped at “don’t care enough” based on this sterling interpretation of the literature.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 12:52 pm to
This whole discussion is ridiculous. I’m tired to the point of exhaustion of idiots who take something, whether it be transgenderism or homosexuality, that is clearly contrary to the natural order of things, and go out of their way to normalize and rationalize it. It is clear to anyone with a ounce of common sense that neither homosexuality nor transgenderism serve any natural purpose and are in fact counter to the way nature designed us to operate. Both can and should be classified as mental disorders. But, because the people suffering from them have couched their argument as “I’m being picked on,” well-meaning retards jump to their defense and call those of us who try to see things objectively bullies and bigots.

Look, adults should be able to do whatever they want. If homosexuals and transgenders want to live that particular lifestyle, I have absolutely no problem with it, since it doesn’t affect me in the slightest. What does bother me is the way that those living those lifestyles are lionized and idolized in popular culture, because I have to raise my children in the environment so created. I also grow weary of the “I just can’t help it,” argument. Abdication of personal responsibility is today’s most popular pastime. If you truly can’t help it, then go get help, but if you choose not to, don’t expect me to stand and applaud because you decided to just go along with your mental illness rather than make an attempt to do something about it.

And before someone jumps in with the, “It can’t be cured, you bigot,” defense, let me ask: how do we know? How much effort is being put into curing these conditions? I would propose very, very little since trying to take that approach would be career suicide for any psychologist in the present culture. Even if they did find a cure, they would be vilified rather than thanked for it. So why would anyone bother?

Too many people in this world make themselves willfully stupid in order to feel good about how incredibly open-minded they are. They consider critical thinking not just useless but mean-spirited. These people fail to realize that open-mindedness may be a virtue, but empty-mindedness is not. Open-mindedness simply means the willingness to consider other viewpoints. It does not mean that you must necessarily accept them. I am perfectly willing to listen to whatever point of view you wish to espouse, but I am also perfectly willing to call you a fricking retard when you are finished if that’s what you deserve.
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