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Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:30 am to Pettifogger
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I'm fine with the idea of raising courageous and upstanding sons, and in teaching boys they're not pussies for asking for help, etc.
My issue is that it comes on the heels of fictional claims that there is some epidemic of toxic masculinity in the world. Gillette is being motivated by a false premise and the people doing the motivating don't care about abuse or harassment or the fate of American boys - they care about diminishing male power and the things it represents (capitalism, social norms, etc.).
I agree completely with that. But the ridiculous times that we are in currently don't change my view some of the underlying points of the commercial. I just only agree with some of them, as I am sure most people would as well (not raising our kids to be assholes, basically).
And we can all agree that this was done by Gilette to capitalize on a marketing opportunity and get their name out there. And for most rational people, this won't affect their razor use in the slightest bit, if at all.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:30 am to LouisianaLady
quote:You must have wached a different commercial
But I feel like I must have watched a different commercial than all of you because what I saw was a commercial saying exactly that: not all men. They were basically saying, "Hey, men. We know that not all men are shitbags. We agree with you. So when you see a man being a shitbag, call him out." Is this all that wild to people? I mean, I knew dudes who groped random women in Tigerland every single time they'd get drunk and other than "dude you're gonna get us kicked out" every so often, not a single "bro" of theirs did anything of meaning to stop them.
The first half absolutely was driving home the point on "men in general"
Also, there is zero logic in them making a commercial or ad to start if they beleived it was only a small portion of men. The fact they made it in itself shows you what they feel of general masculinity
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:30 am to LouisianaLady
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But I feel like I must have watched a different commercial than all of you because what I saw was a commercial saying exactly that: not all men. They were basically saying, "Hey, men. We know that not all men are shitbags. We agree with you. So when you see a man being a shitbag, call him out." Is this all that wild to people? I mean, I knew dudes who groped random women in Tigerland every single time they'd get drunk and other than "dude you're gonna get us kicked out" every so often, not a single "bro" of theirs did anything of meaning to stop them.
This is probably the most egalitarian male-female point in human history
Nobody disagrees with the message (or no normal people do), it's the fact that they think there is some need for the message when men overall are doing perfectly fine advancing themselves and their communities.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:30 am to LouisianaLady
what are your thoughts on the "toxic masculinity" campaign?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:31 am to LouisianaLady
quote:Most of the outrage is likely due to males just being tired of constantly being told that they are threats or chastised for “toxic masculinity”.
I don't really care one way or the other about the commercial itself, but I was kinda surprised to see the outrage.
The ad makes it seem as if being a douchebag is just “boys being boys”, which couldn’t be further from the truth.
Also, as Scruffy stated earlier, where is the ad like this for women? They are always geared towards female empowerment.
It is just getting quite old and tiring at this point.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The ad was aimed at millennial men, I figure they hit their target market in trying to shed testosterone.
Says the generation that needs low T centers.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:31 am to Pettifogger
quote:Correct
Nobody disagrees with the message (or no normal people do), it's the fact that they think there is some need for the message when men overall are doing perfectly fine advancing themselves and their communities.
We dont need a commercial saying "dont light babies on fire" either
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:31 am to Pettifogger
quote:Exactly.
it's the fact that they think there is some need for the message when men overall are doing perfectly fine advancing themselves and their communities.
Hell, we are at one of the lowest points in history as far as all violence and criminal activity is concerned.
They make it seem like we live in a war torn 3rd world country where men need to be told “don’t rape”.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 9:34 am
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:32 am to lsupride87
So you're the people who get pissed off about things that aren't even directed at you.
That's much better...
That's much better...
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:33 am to bigberg2000
If I was $1 Shave Club I'd make an ad campaign generalizing women as wine drunk by noon gossiping sandwich makers and say they need to be more like men.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:33 am to TH03
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Says the generation that needs low T centers.
Never had an issue
The worst thing about Gen X is the whiny children we raised.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:33 am to Pettifogger
Virtue signaling is just virtue signaling.
It is rarely needed.
It is rarely needed.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:33 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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So you're the people who get pissed off about things that aren't even directed at you.
Where is the precedence for major ad campaigns targeting a minuscule contingent of shitbags?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:34 am to Pettifogger
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Where is the precedence for major ad campaigns targeting a minuscule contingent of shitbags?
Does affliction count?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:34 am to Pettifogger
quote:
Nobody disagrees with the message (or no normal people do), it's the fact that they think there is some need for the message when men overall are doing perfectly fine advancing themselves and their communities.
Speak for yourself. My Rape Gang and I always like to get up on Sunday morning and after beating our girlfriends, we go make toddlers fight in the street while we grope random women jogging by.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:34 am to Pettifogger
quote:
Where is the precedence
Who cares.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:34 am to Salmon
quote:
Virtue signaling is just virtue signaling.
It is rarely needed.
Then what's the objection to people who respond to that with "haha, frick off, I'll shop elsewhere"?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:34 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Pissed?
So you're the people who get pissed off about things that aren't even directed at you.
No not pissed. I simply disagree with Gillette and others that the general man who believes in masculinity is pro abuse and sexual harassment. Thats all
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:34 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
commercial
Chevy's "I'm a lil bit country blah blah blah" commercial is as bad as Dodge's "I am Ram". I mute the sound.
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