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re: I’m losing faith in our public school system
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:56 am to tiger_nutz
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:56 am to tiger_nutz
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I lost faith when I became a teacher and was told I could not fail students. There are kids that I see graduate that scored below a 10 on the ACT. They cannot do the simplest 3rd grade math and yet they get diplomas. It has become a participation institution now unfortunately...try your best and get a diploma no matter what.
Pretty sure I was a beneficiary of this treatment in the opposite way. My grades were fine, high ACT score, but I was constantly absent, forged doctor's notes, constantly just doing what I wanted when I wanted, but I still got pushed through. The result is it's very difficult for me to fulfill my commitments unless I am 100% positive it's worth it. I think if my school would have been harsh and made me stay in high school for another year (I was way way beyond what was acceptable for absences), maybe I'd have a better understanding of what it means to stay committed to things.
It's still my shite to work through now, but I can't help to imagine the fact that I never had to own up to being a no show on many things enabled my behavior. In some instances, however, I feel it's helped me to be my own person and make decisions I feel are intuitively correct. But sometimes the world doesn't need people focused on themselves 100% of the time.
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:56 am to Run1lap
i don't understand how somebody could have much faith in just about any government agency/department. the whole thing is crooked right up to and including the president.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:58 am to tiger_nutz
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lost faith when I became a teacher and was told I could not fail students.
This is what passes me off the most about public school systems. Pushing thru low functioning morons is a waste of time and resources.
I would like to see a tiered diploma. Exit testing of students and recognition of those that can at least read, write and do math at grade level. Giving a diploma to every low iq mouth breather has completely devalued a high school diploma.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:59 am to Run1lap
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I thought these people were intelligent.
In LA public school?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:01 am to Run1lap
This is all antidotal evidence based on people I know from HS & college in the JP & NOLA area
Can't speak for EBR, but in JP & NOLA the public school system has a problem with the quality of individuals they hire as teachers. There are a lot of people that became teachers because they were not qualified for anything else and had some BS degree bc they "had to go to college". There is also an entitlement, and a not my problem attitude with a lot of these teachers. Unfortunately, because of their actions, they greatly over shadow those teachers that are great at what they do and are in that career path because it's their passion.
Most of those teachers that are truly passionate about teaching, end up in private schools; although, they have their bad apples as well.
Can't speak for EBR, but in JP & NOLA the public school system has a problem with the quality of individuals they hire as teachers. There are a lot of people that became teachers because they were not qualified for anything else and had some BS degree bc they "had to go to college". There is also an entitlement, and a not my problem attitude with a lot of these teachers. Unfortunately, because of their actions, they greatly over shadow those teachers that are great at what they do and are in that career path because it's their passion.
Most of those teachers that are truly passionate about teaching, end up in private schools; although, they have their bad apples as well.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:01 am to Run1lap
If EBR has virtual school, do the teachers play a role?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:01 am to tigerfoot
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Well, to be fair, they have only had a couple days to prepare.
You misspelled months.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:02 am to Run1lap
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They are either going back to physical school, or have made preparations to deliver an online curriculum.
my daughter's public school has done this
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:03 am to Run1lap
if COVID-19 is such a threat to our teachers and children - why were schools still operating back in February and March?
also, over a 100 children die from the influenza every year (compared to less than 20 from COVID-19) - how could we possibly open schools doors with the FLU out there lurking and waiting to steal our innocent children from us?
also, over a 100 children die from the influenza every year (compared to less than 20 from COVID-19) - how could we possibly open schools doors with the FLU out there lurking and waiting to steal our innocent children from us?
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 9:06 am
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:06 am to Run1lap
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thought these people were intelligent.
Well, I found problem #1.
Public school systems are still teaching the same procedures and streamlined as they did in the 1940s with no foreseeable change. Add that to the fact that shitty parents send their kids to school to babysit with no interest in learning whatsoever.
An antiquated system + current social climate = failure.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:07 am to Run1lap
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I thought these people were intelligent
some are.
there are some extremely talented, intelligent, hard working teachers out there who deserve praise.
but most teachers, principles, admins, etc.....are still government employees. again, government employees.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:08 am to Run1lap
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No plans. No preparations. If Louisiana goes virtual, our teachers and administrators will scramble to deliver an online program.
You need to be more specific. A number of LA public school systems are either ready to go with virtual learning, or will be in about 2-3 weeks.
Don't judge our entire state's public schools based on the idiots in EBR.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:10 am to goofball
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Teachers that may be excellent in the classroom are often not impactful in an online/remote learning curriculum.
We have a lot of older teachers in this country, who have done things the same way for decades. It's a problem, both in public and private schools.
When my kids attended a Catholic school, one of their teachers was using tests that were so old, had been copied so many times, that the font was hard to read.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:12 am to LCA131
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Had more of the teachers taken basic economics courses in college, instead of basic babysitting, they would realize that if they all come back to school and a bunch of them get sick and die, then the demand will increase and the ones who are still alive will get a pay raise...
Golden opportunity wasted.
You, I, and the teachers all know that the real result would be teachers giving up their planning periods, and the extra money would be spent on central office administrators and on technology sold by someone's brother in law that doesn't actually work.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:13 am to Run1lap
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No plans. No preparations. If Louisiana goes virtual, our teachers and administrators will scramble to deliver an online program.
Not true. My district has been preparing a virtual curriculum since March. We’re PD’ing it right now. Don’t let that slow down your bashing, though.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:14 am to Run1lap
If my son’s private school goes online, it will be all day just like school and they have to wear uniforms and abide by grooming standards.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:16 am to Run1lap
Ain't nobody got time for planning a curriculum, we got more important matters like which schools to rename!
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:22 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Can't speak for EBR, but in JP & NOLA the public school system has a problem with the quality of individuals they hire as teachers. There are a lot of people that became teachers because they were not qualified for anything else and had some BS degree bc they "had to go to college".
If I'm a smart college kid, I can:
1) Choose a field like engineering, business, science, etc, and make 40-50K right out of school, and 100K in 10 years
2) Choose education, make 50-55K right out of school, and 60K in 10 years.
Teachers get paid pretty well right out of school, but long-term, sucks. That's why so many people get out after a few years of teaching, and go do something else that makes a lot more money.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:29 am to LSUFanHouston
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Choose education, make 50-55K right out of school
25 years in, making $52k. Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:31 am to High C
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25 years in, making $52k.
You mind if I ask you what district?
I thought with the supplements and raises in recent years, everyone was pretty much at or about 50 to start.
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