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re: If there is no heaven or hell, does the purpose & meaning of your life change?
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:48 pm to caro81
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:48 pm to caro81
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unless you choose the wrong god. What makes yours the right one?
I think most major religions are essentially worshipping the same God.
Jews don't really try to convert anyone because they believe good people can still receive an eternal reward. I kind of feel the same way.
I'm Catholic. Catholicism says people who knowingly reject Christ put themselves in spiritual danger. Jesus is the only source of salvation. However, a person's explicit membership in Catholicism or another Christian religion is not necessarily required for Jesus to save them.
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Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:49 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
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If there is no heaven or hell, does the purpose & meaning of your life change?
It makes life more beautiful.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:52 pm to BamaCoaster
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Never says I was an atheist. I’m not.
Never said you were an atheist, said it seemed like you identified with the new atheists’ idea of culture Christians or you go to church but don’t really believe.
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I think there is a greater force out there, but I don’t pretend to know.
This is part of what I call neopaganism, and it’s what’s replacing Christianity.
You have literal Wicca, druids, etc., and you also have nameless worship of lust, greed, status, hedonism, etc. but there is also a vibes-based belief in a higher power/spirituality.
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Thanks for the well wishes.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:59 pm to sgallo3
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Found the entitled a-hole
Why do you think I’m entitled?
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:05 pm to weagle1999
Atheists better hope they're right.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:09 pm to ShrimperDan
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I think most major religions are essentially worshipping the same God.
You are woefully mistaken, and part of the issue is that people do not think enough about these matters.
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Jews don't really try to convert anyone because they believe good people can still receive an eternal reward
Wrong, they’re elitist who think they remain God’s only chosen people and are better than everyone else because of that.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:09 pm to Cockopotamus
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Why do you think I’m entitled?
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If there are no ultimate consequences for nefarious, selfish, or destructive actions in this life, why would one abstain from them?
You just admitted that you wanna do selfish, destructive things as long as theres no divine punishment.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:17 pm to UFFan
Pascal’s wager
Unless that is not exactly correct.
The more I learn about the universe, the more I believe in creation.
The more I learn about how the universe works (quantum / “time” / entropy / etc), the less I believe that creation matches what most were taught.
Pascal should have carried the one. Me thinks beyond the binary here.
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Basically, it's theorized that there's no risk to believing in God and being wrong.
Unless that is not exactly correct.
The more I learn about the universe, the more I believe in creation.
The more I learn about how the universe works (quantum / “time” / entropy / etc), the less I believe that creation matches what most were taught.
Pascal should have carried the one. Me thinks beyond the binary here.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:20 pm to sgallo3
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You just admitted that you wanna do selfish, destructive things as long as theres no divine punishment.
It is human nature to act in your own self-interest, and if there are no consequences to your actions, then you are have a wider choice of actions.
Also don’t put words in my mouth. That isn’t what I said.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:21 pm to Cockopotamus
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Yes of course it does. If there are no ultimate consequences for nefarious, selfish, or destructive actions in this life, why would one abstain from them?
Just being a good person not matter to you? For the sake of it.
Are you saying you might murder, rape, steal or tear mattress tag off if there were no after life consequences?
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:23 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
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Just being a good person not matter to you? For the sake of it.
Yet again, how do you define “good?”
You are probably using Christian morals.
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Are you saying you might murder, rape, steal or tear mattress tag off if there were no after life consequences?
I’m saying it is human nature to act in your own self-interest, and if there are no consequences to your actions, then you are have a wider choice of actions.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:46 pm to AlterDWI
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If I die & go to hell & many of my loved ones, my mom for example, are in heaven; how are they able to live in eternal peace & bliss knowing that I am in hell suffering & being tortured?
This is a great example, one of the many illogical, contradictions, labyrinth of non sense that is embedded in religions. All of them.
Drove me to question everything I was taught.
Believe in creation and the divine and found more logic, alignment, and sensible path when took decision to skip the middleman (minus the religion) and listen & learn with my own eyes.
On that journey now. I see more evidence for ‘God’ via the quantum (entanglement, time dilation, entropy, etc) than I do from religions.
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