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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:56 pm to
You have to wonder what, exactly, he learned in school
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:58 pm to
Door Dash delivered something to Kernoodle at 4am. Kernoodle was on Tik Tok at 4:12am. Whimpering and loud thud from Kernoodle's room caught on security camera at 4:17am. Shortly thereafter, killer left the scene through second floor sliding glass door.

So Goncalves and Mogen killed first on third floor.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Reddit post (describing the gruesomeness of the killing and coincidentally giving a location in woods of Pennsylvania).


That originated on 4chan but still interesting
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:59 pm to
There hasn't been any real evidence of him "stalking" though right? They said cell phone pings, but it sounds like it was just in the general area? A couple pings a month in the general area doesn't seem like stalking. Maybe they have it closer together and more information? Maybe it was all at 2am? IDK.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:59 pm to
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I've also had a few different opportunities to have dinner with Dr. Henry Lee


Incredibly jealous. I watch and read everything that man puts out about cases he’s worked.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22966 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:00 pm to
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The affidavit doesn't mention the timeline


The affidavit states that the killings happened between 4:00am and 4:25am.
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Door Dash delivered something to Kernoodle at 4am. Kernoodle was on Tik Tok at 4:12am. Whimpering and loud thud from Kernoodle's room caught on security camera at 4:17am. Shortly thereafter, killer left the scene through second floor sliding glass door.

So Goncalves and Mogen killed first on third floor.



This is unclear to me still but your timeline makes sense.

He saw the room mate that survived AFTER being upstairs. So he went and killed the 2 downstairs AFTER walking past the girl that survived? Seems absurd?

Something has to be missing. Like maybe the boyfriend woke up and confronted him, that's why the 2nd two died?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:02 pm to
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The affidavit states that the killings happened between 4:00am and 4:25am.


I meant of when he arrived to the house and when he left the house. He only lived 10 mins away right? But his cell was turned off for a couple of hours?
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:03 pm to
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So he went and killed the 2 downstairs AFTER walking past the girl that survived? Seems absurd?


FFS
Do you people even read the affidavit before spouting off dumb shite?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:03 pm to
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A couple pings a month in the general area doesn't seem like stalking. Maybe they have it closer together and more information? Maybe it was all at 2am? IDK.


Sounds like they are pretty specific location wise and all in the early morning hours. 12 different times.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:05 pm to
The guy probably was dressed in black with the knife at his side and was working up the courage to kill several of the times he drove by in the wee hours. Chilling.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:05 pm to
I read the affidavit. This dude is 100% the perpetrator. The DNA evidence alone proves his guilt. Give him the brick treatment on the courthouse lawn tomorrow.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24172 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:05 pm to
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FFS
Do you people even read the affidavit before spouting off dumb shite?


I read it. Explain to me what happened then? Its unclear
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15953 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

He saw the room mate that survived AFTER being upstairs. So he went and killed the 2 downstairs AFTER walking past the girl that survived? Seems absurd?

Something has to be missing. Like maybe the boyfriend woke up and confronted him, that's why the 2nd two died?


I took it as roommate heard noises coming from room on same floor, she looked out the door and saw a dark silhouette (I suppose I could see how this wouldn't raise suspicion) then a few minutes later looked out the door again, and that's when she came essentially face to face with him. So she saw him, he went up stairs (and she heard noise upstairs, assumed Kaylee was playing with her dog), and then he came back down.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36972 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:06 pm to
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Did you read the affidavit? They caught the vehicle multiple times on video provided by the King Road Neighborhood between 3:30am and 4:20am.


I just finished reading it.

They had him from jump.

DNA on the sheath and DNA from the trash in PA just verified what they knew and makes it a slam dunk case.

Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1287 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:07 pm to
Did you see the reference to a latent shoe print? I assume he discarded his shoes and clothing.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5245 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:08 pm to
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I'm almost thinking that the girl that survived knew him


No way, she was either f ucked up or hiding drugs or something. If she knew him, she would have never admitted to seeing him.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:08 pm to
Is this the longest thread in TD history?
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:08 pm to
Where do I read the affidavit?

He lost the sheath to his knife in the house?
Why even bring that with you.

And one of the surviving roommates SAW him? Without him noticing? One post k saw earlier said she yelled at someone and he spooked off?

Sorry if incorrect assumptions k haven’t read the affidavit.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108269 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 1:08 pm to
12 different times the dude was in their area prior to the murders 11 of those 12 times was late night early morning hours. He followed them on social media. I'm guessing there will be far more evidence of stalking coming down the pike.
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