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re: I stopped drinking last week...when do the shakes stop?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:47 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:47 pm to WeeWee
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DTs can escalate quickly and unexpectedly. They can also be fatal in up to 25% of patients who are not treated
Can a guy really get full blown DTs after going on a two month bender? I'd expect a multi-day hangover, but not the DTs. And certainly not a 1 in 4 chance of dying from them.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:49 pm to Bama and Beer
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I've been through moderate to severe bouts of withdrawals from alcohol through the years
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Bama and Beer
Brother, I don’t write the jokes, they just flow naturally
Posted on 9/8/23 at 6:32 pm to Commandeaux
No one likes a quitter.
Seriously, pray and take care of yourself.
Seriously, pray and take care of yourself.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 6:46 pm to White Roach
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Can a guy really get full blown DTs after going on a two month bender?
quote:LINK
Delirium tremens can occur when you stop drinking alcohol after a period of heavy drinking, especially if you do not eat enough food.
Delirium tremens may also be caused by head injury, infection, or illness in people with a history of heavy alcohol use.
It occurs most often in people who have a history of alcohol withdrawal. It is especially common in those who drink 4 to 5 pints (1.8 to 2.4 liters) of wine, 7 to 8 pints (3.3 to 3.8 liters) of beer, or 1 pint (1/2 liter) of "hard" alcohol every day for several months. Delirium tremens also commonly affects people who have used alcohol for more than 10 years.
It does not have to be daily or heavy alcohol use (which for the record is defined as 15 drinks per week for a man) just regular usage. If the OP is like the majority of us on the OT and has used alcohol regularly for > 10 years then yes going on a bender and drinking a bottle of bourban every day and a half for 2 months can cause DTs.
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And certainly not a 1 in 4 chance of dying from them.
quote:Cleveland Clinic
Without treatment, about 15% of people with DTs don’t survive.
quote:National Institute of Health
Delirium tremens was first recognized as a disorder attributed to excessive alcohol abuse in 1813. It is now commonly known to occur as early as 48 hours after abrupt cessation of alcohol in those with chronic abuse and can last up to 5 days. It has an anticipated mortality of up to 37% without appropriate treatment.
quote:Wikipedia
Mortality without treatment is between 15% and 40%.
The Cleveland Clinic says 15%, the NIH says 37%, wikipedia says 15-40%. Pick whatever number you like. It is still high enough for the OP not to f**k around with it.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 6:51 pm to Commandeaux
Delirium tremens. Any of these symptoms and you need to go to the ER.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:03 pm to Commandeaux
This is day 34 for me.
Didn't really have the shakes.
Gastro issues were a mother for a few weeks, though. Those have mostly cleared up.
Good luck.
Didn't really have the shakes.
Gastro issues were a mother for a few weeks, though. Those have mostly cleared up.
Good luck.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:08 pm to Commandeaux
Its a silly question to ask me, I haven't drank heavily since high school. Last full beer I drank I didn't get the shakes.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:16 pm to Commandeaux
It gets easier. Fight the good fight, and in a week, in a month, in 2-5 months, you'll adjust and realize you don't need the crutch as much as you thought you did. You're all the help you need, but meetings help. They're everywhere. You can be around people with the same feelings as you.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:26 pm to Commandeaux
You sure you just don’t have RLS?
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:44 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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Delirium tremens. Any of these symptoms and you need to go to the ER.
And all they will do is take your blood pressure , take your temperature and give you a script for Benzos. No thanks.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:41 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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Why pickup a drink ten get a medical detox as opposed to just getting the medical detox?
When the shaking gets uncontrollable, sleep won't come, heart is pounding and won't slow down, DT's set in - it's time to get a drink in you to calm it enough to get to a facility that can handle a medical detox so that you don't die from the withdrawal.
Over time, someone who drinks consistently and regularly develops a tolerance for the alcohol and it takes more and more of it to get the same effect. The reason for this is that your brain has started creating and releasing a chemical to overcome the depressant (alcohol) that you have introduced to your body. It's the brain's way of dealing with this threat.
When you suddenly quit drinking, the brain doesn't suddenly slow down the production of these chemicals. It took time for it to ramp up production to combat the alcohol and it takes time for it to slow the production of these chemicals down.
In the meantime, while these chemicals are released from your brain into your body to fight the alcohol that isn't there anymore, the body reacts to those chemicals with fidgeting, restlessness, unease, rapid pulse, fast breathing, etc. (These are just the mild symptoms.)
Taking a drink will ease the symptoms for a brief while when the alcohol is in your system. So, if you're trying to quit cold turkey (or quit Wild Turkey, as it were), if there is an inkling of a thought that you're about to suffer DTs, then it's a good idea to get a drink in yourself to calm it down and make the call for help.
I was fortunate to not have to go that far when I finally laid the bottle down, but I was less than a hair's breadth from being there.
Over the long term, for the rest of your life your brain will remember alcohol and what it needs to do to combat it. Even one drink can trigger the brain into opening up its chemical plant into overdrive again. And that's why alcoholics can't have just that one drink again. It's not about a lack of control. It's about turning on the chemical plant in your brain again which will out you right back where you started in a hurry.
Sorry for the large tome here, but the physical addiction to alcohol needs to be something everyone is aware of. I'm not trying to preach to anyone that you shouldn't drink, or that if you drink you're going to hell. It's just something you should know about in order to keep a wary eye out for it.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:42 pm to Commandeaux
You need to ask a real doctor, not the OT. Seriously.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:48 pm to PowerTool
When 90s Elisabeth Shue shows up.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:52 pm to Commandeaux
Good luck to you. Just wanted to add a little information that I found out at my doctor today. I’ve been on Ozempic since March for weight loss and I noticed that my drinking drastically decreased. I was never at an alcoholic level but I would crave a beer or stiff drink 2-3 times a week after work. Once I started Ozempic, that craving went away. I actually don’t care to drink at all anymore. I’ve only been “drunk” one time since taking the shots and that was for my birthday at a lake house. I talked to my doctor today and he mentioned that they are currently studying the effects of Ozempic and addiction. He mentioned that quite a bit of his patients were able to defeat their dependency of alcohol after starting Ozempic. it might be worth mentioning to your doctor and seeing their opinion. I just wanted to pass this information along to you because I know what you are going through is extremely difficult and I know you will need tons of help and support.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:58 pm to Commandeaux
If a break up ain't worth drinking over what is??
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:01 pm to WeeWee
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The Cleveland Clinic says 15%, the NIH says 37%, wikipedia says 15-40%. Pick whatever number you like. It is still high enough for the OP not to f**k around with it.
Wow! I had no idea! Thanks for the info.
Just out curiosity, how long does alcohol stay in your system? I've frequently followed "the hair of the dog that bit you" rule. If you've got a bad hangover, a couple of beers/drinks can make you right. Maybe that's flawed logic ...
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:11 pm to Commandeaux
Prolly should see a med doc for safe measure. I enjoyed drinking since i was like 15yrs old- hard core at times (College days+).
Finally walked away from it and I feel soo much better all around. Though not gonna lie, I miss it- had some really fun times.. anyway, good for you but i’d check that shakes chit out man.
Finally walked away from it and I feel soo much better all around. Though not gonna lie, I miss it- had some really fun times.. anyway, good for you but i’d check that shakes chit out man.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:15 pm to Commandeaux
Go to a Dr and get Wellbutrin
I drank like a fish but after my mom passed my Dr put me on this, I crave nothing anymore and have a nice calm brain.
I think I had some type undiagnosed anxiety or something it fixed.
I drank like a fish but after my mom passed my Dr put me on this, I crave nothing anymore and have a nice calm brain.
I think I had some type undiagnosed anxiety or something it fixed.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:21 pm to WeeWee
quote:depends on size of drink. 10 big gulps of vodka on ice per week ain’t the same as a measured pour at Fred’s, And yes, alcohol induced seizures, hallucinations and DTs are not to be taken lightly as those are the final 3 stages of chronic alcoholism and one needs to go to hospital .
10 drinks per week for years
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 9:25 pm
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