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re: I Can't Do That, Boss': Texas FedEx Driver Refuses to Help Fallen 89-Year-Old

Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5837 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:03 pm to
I get that but at the same time it’s probably 100 degrees outside and old people wear jeans and long sleeves t shirts year round. At the end of the day it’s another human in need of a hand.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51669 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:04 pm to
Absolutely. The least he could have done was call 911 and remain with the man until paramedics arrived.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:08 pm to
It's easy to second guess but it seems obvious the driver should have called the police.
Posted by LurkerTooLong
Lakeview, NOLA
Member since Aug 2016
1978 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:10 pm to
This is what I was coming to post. Why didn’t he call paramedics?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39047 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:11 pm to
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blame lawyers


Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67034 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:12 pm to
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The least he could have done was call 911 and remain with the man until paramedics arrived.

Then his manager would have chastised him for being late on the rest of his deliveries.
In a mildly related story, the wife worked at a bank years ago, spent extra time helping an elderly woman setup online banking only to later have her manager complain to her that what she was doing wasn't generating the bank income and she shouldn't take the time to help non revenue generating customers.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:14 pm to
My sister works for a tech support company and she got a suicidal phone call. Per company standards she stayed on the phone until the 911 peeps got to the house, but they refused to remove that call from her statistics, which means it inflated her per Customer phone time thus making her look worse.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:15 pm to
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thus making her look worse.



So she already looked bad?
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
16466 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:17 pm to
Just abiding by social distancing guidelines
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:17 pm to
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My sister works for a tech support company and she got a suicidal phone call. Per company standards she stayed on the phone until the 911 peeps got to the house, but they refused to remove that call from her statistics, which means it inflated her per Customer phone time thus making her look worse.
So next round of layoffs due to Wu Flu, guess who's got the low stats translating to top of the list for pink slip?

Yep, good citizen following company policy as good employee. BuhBye, for doing what you're supposed to.
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
15757 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:19 pm to
If he was scared of litigation, shouldn't he have tried to call someone?

Seems more like just not caring.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141297 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:20 pm to
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I understand not helping him directly (although I think most would)

Do not see why you can't call 911 and tell them an elderly person has fallen and needs assistance or see if someone else was in the vicinity that could aid
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6442 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:21 pm to
frick that, at least call someone or something if this guys rushing to another delivery. But screw that, I’d help him out
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:23 pm to
Can't blame the driver. For all he knows they could have blamed him for the fall. Said he attacked him. The real problem is the idiot daughter letting him roam around with dementia and weak legs.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19649 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:24 pm to
Because I’m an idiot, can someone explain the lawyer connection and why the driver wasn’t allowed to help him up?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:30 pm to
Did the driver call for help?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76255 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:43 pm to
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blame lawyers

This is the correct answer. Those drivers, and many other employees who come into contact with the general public, are instructed not to help in situations like that. It is a liability concern for the individual and the company, and you can bet your arse past lawsuits are the reason for such policies. That said, I never saw for sure if the guy called for help or not, but he should have, and there is no excuse if he didn't.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76255 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:45 pm to
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Because I’m an idiot, can someone explain the lawyer connection and why the driver wasn’t allowed to help him up?


Liability, simply. If the man was injured further as a result of the driver's attempt to help him, it opens the driver and the company up to potential lawsuits.

I'm sure, even without further injury, frivolous lawsuits have been filed in the past.

I don't know how Good Samaritan Protection laws apply to a company or representatives of a company, though.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63370 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:58 pm to
This is a bunch of bullshite...I’ve always been told if you are trained in first aid you render help in good faith, you can’t be held liable....?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 5:02 pm to
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Absolutely. The least he could have done was call 911 and remain with the man until paramedics arrived.


Then FedEx fires the poor SOB because their truck's GPS tracking systems indicate that he wasn't delivering packages for fifteen minutes while on the clock.
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I’ve always been told if you are trained in first aid you render help in good faith, you can’t be held liable....?
The good news is that even if you are found to be zero percent liable and owe the old man and his family nothing, it's only going to cost you fifty thousand dollars to pay the lawyer to defend you in that civil suit.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 5:07 pm
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